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post #21 of 103 (permalink) Old 06-22-2016, 06:59 PM
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I could be dangerous in traffic if it jumps out of gear and mine jumped out a long way after I engaged it.
Definitely not fun when it pops out of gear while overtaking

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post #22 of 103 (permalink) Old 06-23-2016, 11:46 AM
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Im at like 350 and mine is shifting fine. I hope I don't start having problems with it like that. That is not good.

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That is strange , mine have jumped out of gear 3 times in 2500 miles , i initially thought that it was me not pushing the gear in fully but then it did it again , after roughly 1000 miles the problem dissapeared so i was thinking the gearbox is fully broken in , but then last saturday it did it again in 4 gear , it was pulling then it jumped out of gear so the revs vent right up and then it poped back in the gear on its own , never seen this on any of my previous bikes . Dealer does not believe me of course .
I also have had the exact same problem during the first 1000km I probably got a false neutral about 3 times in 4-5 gear, Mention it to the dealer and just got a blank look, Its had it first service fresh oil and see how it goes from now on shrug could just be tight gears not locating during break in.
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I had a few false neutrals too in the top couple of gears, mostly on the upshift. (only every now and again) Found I just had to be a little more positive with the left boot. Not a lot but I had to be sure of the click and not feather the lever as I had been doing on the previous V Strom. Not a problem IMO but I had to adjust my positivity. 2 1/2 K Km on her now.
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Just got a AT last week......and yes. It's very clunky between 5th and 6th! Calling the dealer today!
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The downshift its the best of any bike that i have ever ridden , the upshift can be tricky especially if you have big feet like I do , it has got much better after the break in period and also I have got used to the bike more , I have adjusted the height of the lever because it was way too low for me , no bad shifts since , so I think it must be the operators ( my ) fault , also I have my friend testride my bike and he thinks that there is nothing wrong with the gearbox , also he knows that I am paranoid when it comes to my toys

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I have 400 plus on mine and I'm used to the clunky 2008 1200GS gear boxes.......this Honda transmission is silky smooth in comparison. I don't know what you guys are used to but I don't have any issues.

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I have been complaining to my dealer about the the gearshift on my new 2016 Africa Twin ever since i got it new, it changes gear like a Harley!! especially between 1st and 2nd, plus it jumps out of 5th and 6th gear under hard acceleration. I was talking to another Honda mechanic and he said that the Gold Wing has similar issues and he advised that when changing gear don't tap off ALL the throttle, I gave this a try and yes, if coordinated properly results in a nice smooth gear change, however, this machine is supposed to be an Adventure Bike in the Spirit of the original Dakar Africa Twin, when you're getting down and dirty you don't have time for coordinated gearchanges!! The dealer has now had it for 3 weeks and has had authority from Honda to pull it to bits, when I called to find out what they found I got a bit of a vague answer along the lines of "On one of the selector forks, the machining is not what it should be"??? They tell me that they've ordered the spares from Honda but they're not due to ARRIVE in Australia until end of July! by the time they've put it back together it'll be August so nearly 2 months with no motorcycle. I have now lost complete confidence in the Machine, which is a shame as I have been waiting (patiently) for the release of the NEW Africa Twin. As soon as I get it back its going on the market, although I'm sure these issues will affect the selling price! and I'm currently investigating my KTM options. 1050/1190. (of course the Dealer didn't believe me
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Don't give up on it SG. It's a fairly long throw - the lever moves further than some other bikes, and if you only move it partway it seems to find false neutrals. I had a few in the first few hundred km, but once I changed my shifting haven't had any since. The gearbox is a large part of how civilised the bike is, once you change gear the way it needs.

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Interesting that there is a poorly machined selector fork involved. Triumph's Explorer had a similar problem on first generation models in the bottom three gears, and again there was a selector fork involved. In that instance it was poor hardening but the same affect was experienced. The Triumph has a cassette gearbox and accordingly the fix was put in place in most instances while the owner waited for an hour or so. It took Triumph a while to get the fix going but once up and running it was freely available.


I think the issue might be avoided by not being too aggressive with the gearbox during break in. I have felt a notchiness in my AT occasionally in the top three gears. It is very random but does not occur most of the time. When I sense it I just don't lash on the power regardless, but pull the clutch and give it a second chance. So far so good.


One of my previous KTM's had a similar notchiness to the gearbox, much worse than my AT, but it never slipped out of gear. On some days it could be a proper pain. The proper function of a gearbox long term can depend somewhat imho, on how well it is treated in early mileage. I have seen some heavy booted individuals among my friends dishing out some cringe worthy treatment to gearboxes. For that reason they have never had a test ride on mine.

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