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post #61 of 112 (permalink) Old 09-07-2016, 02:00 AM
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Yup also had my first few false shifts all of a sudden at about 2000km on bike around 4th and 5th??! Watching it closely........
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post #62 of 112 (permalink) Old 09-08-2016, 02:18 AM
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This clunky sound/feel are all common on new Honda bikes.

I don't know about you guys but all the Hondas I've owned they've always had this clunky sound/feel when new but disappears after break-in.

What I've found to help eliminate this from the start is switch to synthetic oil from the moment I bring the bike home. And what also helps is don't baby shift...make an effort to shift it into gear. It's all part of the break-in procedure. Over time it will be silky smooth.

Although, my last Honda (2009 CBR600RR) that thing was was silky smooth from the start. Partly because I switched to synthetic but man I would redline that baby just before going into a corner, dump two gears down and pop the clutch and boom...just pure smooth downshift. So silky smooth. I swear I thought it had a slipper clutch.
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This clunky sound/feel are all common on new Honda bikes.

I don't know about you guys but all the Hondas I've owned they've always had this clunky sound/feel when new but disappears after break-in.

What I've found to help eliminate this from the start is switch to synthetic oil from the moment I bring the bike home. And what also helps is don't baby shift...make an effort to shift it into gear. It's all part of the break-in procedure. Over time it will be silky smooth.

Although, my last Honda (2009 CBR600RR) that thing was was silky smooth from the start. Partly because I switched to synthetic but man I would redline just before going into a corner, dump two gears down and pop the clutch and boom...just pure smooth downshift. So silky smooth. I swear I thought it had a slipper clutch.
Hi Nemesis,

Have you changed your Africa over to synthetic oil yet? If so, what breed did you go with and viscosity? Any changes noticed?

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Mofo I'm not sure if all the bikes have this issue. Its also mainly 4-5-6 changes under hard acceleration, is there a lot of that on the TAT? All 1600 miles I put on mine in the first week were canyon riding on our twisty canyon roads here in SoCal, lots of up and down all the way through the gear box at or near full acceleration (after "break in").

I actually hit my first false neutral the very first time i went up through the gears leaving the dealership, caused me to stop and make sure they actually filled the thing up with oil etc. I ride around 1000 miles a week spread across 6 different bikes in the disciplines of trials, enduro, supermoto, and super sport. I also coach enduro riding. When you jump across so many styles and so many bikes and immediately find fault with ONE bike...something is up. Being firm and precise with a gear shift is one thing, having to "muscle" it in is another, and thats where the problem is.
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It is interesting that all the problems raised by North American owners haven't been mentioned by Europeans. Could the US bikes have been built to a different standard?

False neutral? Clunky gearbox? Really? Imet with several dozen of CRF owners while I was in Europe back in the Spring / early summer. None mentioned any problem with their gearbox.

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I doubt you're having to "muscle" it into gear because if that was the case you'd have contacted Honda and sought buy back as this is a safety issue.

It's probably an exaggeration but I totally understand what you're trying to point out.

If I recall Kawasaki had a similar issue with one of their models but I can't remember what the fix was. I'll have to sign in on one of their forums.
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Haha Nemisis you THINK I'm over exaggerating, but for the first time ever I'm actually wearing out the top of my left boot!


And Massive Lee there are european's with the same issue on the AT Facebook page...one guy has had four other african twins and has been having the same issue...maybe he just needs to learn how to shift too? haha
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I am having the shift problems going up the box from 3rd to 4th, 4th to 5th and 5th to 6th, ever since the first service and the change of oil.

It was silky smooth until then, I need to put some more miles on the bike and see if it settles down.

It had a gentle running in period and a gentle 800 miles after that riding round Ireland with my Mrs on her 125, it was one of the only times I have ridden her since (the AT ) and I was wearing exactly the same boots, riding in a similar way, not in a rush, but I missed several changes and not just jumped out, but missed and false neutral, wouldn't change up or down until road-speed was reduced?

I need to ride it some more but the recent nochyness makes my last Harley feel like a Suzuki of Kawasaki with race shift!!
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Haha Nemisis you THINK I'm over exaggerating, but for the first time ever I'm actually wearing out the top of my left boot!


And Massive Lee there are european's with the same issue on the AT Facebook page...one guy has had four other african twins and has been having the same issue...maybe he just needs to learn how to shift too? haha
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Okay, okay. I'll bow out and give you the benefit of the doubt.
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I am having the shift problems going up the box from 3rd to 4th, 4th to 5th and 5th to 6th, ever since the first service and the change of oil.

It was silky smooth until then, I need to put some more miles on the bike and see if it settles down.

Interesting that it has only happened since the first oil change. That would immediately have me looking at what make or viscosity of oil that is used. Is there too much oil in the crankcase ?


Also were there any adjustments made when the service was done such as to the clutch lever or the chain.
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