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post #21 of 52 (permalink) Old 12-15-2016, 08:12 PM
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Having read through this, a couple of other threads, and general comments around the net, I'm wondering if there might have been a dodgy batch of the OEM tyres sent out. Some people say they've had no problems and the tyres are fine, others say that they are awful. I had the OEMs on my AT let go a couple of times in the wet without warning and although the bike has TC, and I am a very experienced rider that regularly rides bikes with nearly twice the horsepower of the AT, I still didn't fancy pushing my luck. But then I was going to swap them anyway.
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post #22 of 52 (permalink) Old 12-21-2016, 10:31 PM
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Still haven't had any wet roads, but can report conti tkc70 combo 100% more confidence inspiring
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post #23 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 02:29 AM
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I am a pretty sedate rider although I like leaning it over in the corners. On my first ride on a well scrubbed in set of OEMs on a damp road the TC had to save the rear. That was at 40 mph on a constant throttle. Worst tyre I ever had. Don't know if it is a batch problem or a temperature thing (7C in the UK). Either way for the first time ever I am getting rid of the OEMs before their time. Conti TA2s seem to be a well reviewed replacement for mainly road riding so I will give them a try.
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Wilco10 if u change to the conti 2s let us no how u get on with them in the cold and wet
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post #25 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 04:24 PM
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To add my tuppence worth, so far in the damp or wet the stock tyres aren't great but equally aren't truly awful, just middle of the road really. With the traction control knocked back a notch it's less noticeable as it's not so keen to jump in at the slightest twitch.

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post #26 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 05:40 PM
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There may certainly be a batch issue. Most of the folks in Europe seem to complain about scary moments on the OEMs as did most of the press at the Sourh African test. Those in the USA seem less concerned. If I remember rightly the US bike arrived after the European ones so maybe they had a later tyre batch.

I am sure of one thing, on my Jan 2016 UK bike the tyres are not just poor but dangerous. I would not have been in the least surprised to find a recall letter from Honda on my doorstep one morning.

To make matters worse although I understand the tubed advantages off road I guess most people would have preferred a tubeless setup. Honda don't offer a tubeless option and as far as I am aware there are no road focussed tubed alternatives to the OEM tyres.

Therefore we have to go against some people's advice not to put tubeless tyres on a tubed set up. In addition the rear at least is likely to be a radial, again some say you shouldn't put a tube in a radial. So we must ensure a radial heavy duty inner tube is used. Then we have to check the rims, I see the rear is a MT but haven't checked the large front yet, might it be a WM? In which case advice again says no tubeless tyres. We must also over spec the speed rating of the tyre to allow for the drop when putting a tube in.

I am happy to take the advice of folks on here that tubeless tyres are safe on the AT but one dealer allready told me that the bike might fail its MOT with tubeless tyres, probably BS. Then there is the insurance companies looking for excuses to not pay out.

All a big hassle because the OEM tyres are crap.
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I agree that the OEM Dunlops are dangerous, i had a couple of scary moments at the rear with them and also found the traction control cutting in when pulling away reasonably normally (I had a Pikes Peak multistrada with 150 hp before and never got this to happen except when accelerating hard over white lines in the wet)

I switched to TA2's just before the 600 mile service and have done nearly 4,000miles on them now, they seem about 50% worn and grip really well in the wet and dry.

The problem with the Traction control cutting in when i didn't think it should have was as much about confidence, it got to the point where i was very nervous of corners on wet roads, I have total confidence in the TA2's, wet or dry, hot or cold.

It transformed the bike for me, if i bought another AT I would have the dealer switch the tyres before delivery.

P.S. I have the OEM tubes in tubeless TA2's, I had them fitted close to home by a guy that specialises in Bike tyres, he basically said not to worry about it so I didn't. I think we can worry about these things too much...

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P.S. I have the OEM tubes in tubeless TA2's, I had them fitted close to home by a guy that specialises in Bike tyres, he basically said not to worry about it so I didn't. I think we can worry about these things too much...
I also have tubes in my TA2s but 4mm HD tubes and see nothing to worry about in fact i feel more secure after suffering a blowout (rear) last summer with sudden deflation. (i am so glad it wasn't the front that blew)

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I will be seeing my local shop about swapping the OEMs for TA2s with HD tubes tomorrow rain willing. Glad to hear you have good confidence in the bike with better rubber on it. When I lost the rear a couple of days ago on my ride home with my new bike I thought I might have made a mistake getting the AT.
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post #30 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 03:49 PM
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I've ordered an Outex kit to convert to tubeless.
Once that arrives I'll be putting on some TA2's.
I'm hoping it'll give as big of a difference as some say, since I two feel I'm not as confident as I used to be, especially with these cold and wet conditions.
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