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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-07-2016, 07:37 AM Thread Starter
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Hi from Australia

After just 400km and few less than satisfying moments I have had the standard trailmax tyres replaced. Conti tkc70 put on by my honda dealer at cost price. Haven't been on damp road yet but after reading various forum comments and seeing the poor guy falling off on youtube ...

Can you help me out by commenting with any trailmax moments you have had below.

So far this is a fantastic bike, can't get my head around Honda's choice of factory fitted rubber.
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-07-2016, 07:56 AM
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In 4000 miles I've had no problems with the OE tyres including a 280mile trip in torrential rain.
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They are probably the worst tyres I have ever had on any motorcycle I have owned. Several times in the wet I nearly came off because of them. They would freely spin up in a straight line in the wet. The back wheel frequently locked up under braking in the wet and sometimes in the dry, with very little provocation. As a result my confidence in them was totally shot. I had a similar situation with Z8's on my previous NC 700, as did others. Z8's are normally good road tyres.


My assessment is totally borne out after I replaced them, well before they were worn out. I used Pirelli MT90's and all the issues disappeared overnight. No more bad moments with the Pirellis. Imho any replacement tyre would be better than these Dunlops. I use Trail Smarts on my Triumph and they are excellent tyres. For that reason I could not understand why the AT OEM Dunlops were so bad. I wrote to Dunlop Europe about the matter and they responded. They told me that the Trail Max's on the AT were specially made to specifications required by Honda. As such they are disowning the situation. Perhaps Honda should leave the Rubber spec to the experts and stick to what they do best. I am also thinking that the same situation probably pertained to the Z8's on my former NC700..........
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In 4000 miles I've had no problems with the OE tyres including a 280mile trip in torrential rain.
3,700km on mine including the rain, no problems whatsoever. I don't cane it everywhere and ride cautiosly in the wet though.

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Hi Griff are the Pirelli MT 90 tyres suitable for both on and off road.i will b 85% on road and in wet and windy and this weather icy conditions ?
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Thanks Griff

More like this will create a case
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The stock tires were the worst tires I have ever had on any motorcycle the past 40 years.

Downright scary in wet conditions.

Totally unpredictable loss of rear end in the wet, even with conservative driving.

Replaced after 1200 kms with Mitas E-07's, which are supposedly a 50/50 tire.

The E-07's were instantly, and exponentially, better than stock, despite the more aggressive tread.

After reading comments on the stock tires, I believe the issue is likely poor batches coming out of the factory, but not all batches are bad.

My stock tires were unsafe.

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I had the same experience as Hemdawg with the stock tyres. Changed to Conti Trail Attack 2's which have totally transformed the bike.
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utter shite

Another owner who has changed them early due to piss poor performance when wet. Now have Conti TA2's fitted and feel a LOT safer


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Has anyone tried Heidenau scout K60 50/50 tire yet?
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