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post #11 of 33 (permalink) Old 01-02-2017, 12:43 PM
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When you say the Heidenau felt like a compromise, could you elaborate more on that?
I found that they wandered, were noisy (not that big of deal), and really weren't fantastic on wet/slippery surfaces. That combined with the fact that they really weren't that much better than a 95/5 tire for gravel roads (I tested the Pirelli Scorpion Trails on the Dempster Highway and in Alaska/NWT).

I bought a CRF250L last summer and it has IRC GP-21 tires which everyone says the same things as the Dunlops on the AT - crappy tires, not very good grip, throw them in the bin, etc, etc....

Well, I've found they were really good in everything except deep sloshy mud. Otherwise, I thought they bit and hooked up better than the TKC80 and Heidenau K60 M+S. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and gut reaction.

I'm willing to wear out a set of tires on the AT before switching and give them a good go. Many reports from motorcycle writers actually like the Dunlop OEM tires, just not for offroad. I guess you have to try them and find out. I will, too.
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Hi, I'm really happy with TKC80 front combined with a Mefo super explorer rear.
Good on road and very good on the trails.
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Wow, they look good, and the HQ for that company is based not far from me.

You got them on your AT?

Yes, I put them on after about 300 miles. I've now done just under 3000 miles, 25% offroad and both are holding up really well. I reckon they'll be good for 5000 miles which for me is fine ( about a years riding). The good thing is the Mefo rear doesn't have the solid rubber centre band.
Definitely buy them again.

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Have you considered the Mitas E07 tire?

I have found them much better than the stock tire on pavement, particularly wet pavement, and they have transformed the bike off road compared to stock.

They have Enduro and Dakar versions. The Dakar is the same tire but with a stiffer sidewall.

I fitted the Enduros, which I thought would be easier to get on and off the rims in a pinch.

I am very happy with them. They seem to be wearing quite well after 4,000 kms.
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Have you considered the Mitas E07 tire?

I have found them much better than the stock tire on pavement, particularly wet pavement, and they have transformed the bike off road compared to stock.

They have Enduro and Dakar versions. The Dakar is the same tire but with a stiffer sidewall.

I fitted the Enduros, which I thought would be easier to get on and off the rims in a pinch.

I am very happy with them. They seem to be wearing quite well after 4,000 kms.

How do they do on gravel roads? Does the front washout easily or do they hold pretty good?
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I find them good on gravel.

They weren't great in sand, but that may have been rider technique and not the tires
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I find them good on gravel.

They weren't great in sand, but that may have been rider technique and not the tires
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Hi There,

I had the same question regarding which tires to change to. I first ran a combination of E07 rear and TKC80 front. I think this is really very good in soft sand situations, but you have to decide how much of this you are going to do. I also ran the E07's front and rear, and finally settled on these for everyday use.

I have just spent 2 weeks riding in the Western Cape mountains and was very happy with how the tires performed. On tar surfaces the tire pressures were 2.5 bar rear and 2.2 bar front. Off the tarmac the pressures were 1.8 bar front and rear. (It was only me, 80kg's, a tank bag, 1 kg and a tool bag on the rear seat, 5kg'.)

My conclusion is that I will use this combination for everyday use and when I go on a trip where I know the conditions will be extreme or there will be rain (mud) I will stick the TKC80 on the front.
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[QUOTE=JohnG;125833]Hi There,

I had the same question regarding which tires to change to. I first ran a combination of E07 rear and TKC80 front. I think this is really very good in soft sand situations, but you have to decide how much of this you are going to do. I also ran the E07's front and rear, and finally settled on these for everyday use.

I have just spent 2 weeks riding in the Western Cape mountains and was very happy with how the tires performed. On tar surfaces the tire pressures were 2.5 bar rear and 2.2 bar front. Off the tarmac the pressures were 1.8 bar front and rear. (It was only me, 80kg's, a tank bag, 1 kg and a tool bag on the rear seat, 5kg'.)

My conclusion is that I will use this combination for everyday use and when I go on a trip where I know the conditions will be extreme or there will be rain (mud) I will stick the TKC80 on the front.

How long are the EO7 's lasting?
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Does anyone think the oem were good.i want to feel confident at speed in the wet so am wondering will I change tyres minute I get bike.im from Ireland were the norm is wet.i will mostly be on tar,maybe 85-15%???? Maybe more with a little confidence ?
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Does anyone think the oem were good.i want to feel confident at speed in the wet so am wondering will I change tyres minute I get bike.im from Ireland were the norm is wet.i will mostly be on tar,maybe 85-15%???? Maybe more with a little confidence ?
I'm in the US and a dry climate. I think the OEM tires are great for what they are. They are great on dry payvment and I have had no issue at all when the pavement gets wet but I do slow down. They do fine on gravel roads and light trails. I don't know if we got a different tire over here because I have heard many negatives from others but they don't hold true for me. Side note, I ride the twisty canyons pretty hard around here and the bike and tires are great. I got 5500 miles on them and when they wear out I will give a more dirt oriented tire a try.
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