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post #171 of 188 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 02:35 PM
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I didn't received mine yet, but I'm planning to order the Honda panniers for 3 reasons.
1. they fit without any additional accessory, then when you remove them looks clean.
2. they doesn't exceed the wide of the handle bar too much, they fit better and closer to the motorcycle.
3. the same ignition key can open and disengace the panniers and top case.
And a bonus, I think they are much lighter than full aluminium panniers.
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Some are going with the oem panniers and a givi metal top box.hvnt seen the panniers but on the demo bike I had the top box was flimsy and hard open and close and lock.givi are diff stronger and cheaper abide the permanent frame\or crash protector ?
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I've got the OEM side cases and I can indeed say they are very light compared to alu boxes & racks.
Comparing to other plastic panniers they are just as sturdy/flimsy, so no need to worry about that.

I do have the GIVI 42 liter outback trekker topcase and that's a great quality product with a nice latch and lock and plenty of hooks to strap stuff on top of the box.
I have to say it's quite heavy indeed.
GIVI has a set for mounting the topcase plate, containing brackets to reinforce the plastic rear rack.
I haven't got those brackets fitted on mine and I have to say the plastic rack wobbles quit allot with the loaded topbox and an additional bag strapped on top.
With a pillion leaning on the backrest I was a bit scarred at first, but so far nothing broke,
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I've got the OEM panniers and a 52l Givi topbox, reasoning as follows:

Only use the panniers for touring and there's no frame left over the rest of the time, they are also pretty lightweight. Plus nice and narrow for filtering. When I'm doing anything more than mild off-roading I won't have the panniers on so their toughness isn't really relevant for me.

The 52l topbox looked ludicrously huge when it was on my garage floor, once mounted to the bike it looks completely fine. The size lets me store my helmet, lunch and any other equipment I need for work every day of the week.

Pretty happy so far but it's very early days!
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post #175 of 188 (permalink) Old 01-20-2017, 12:28 PM
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hi folks
I went with soft luggage for my AT
Check out the SW Motech Dakar bags and tail bag
The soft panniers have a plastic liner that holds the shape.
Attachment to the frames is very positive and easy, everything stays in place.
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Looks great. You just helped me make up my mind. SW motech!
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Looks great. You just helped me make up my mind. SW motech!
Me too that tailbag is nice. It is designed for the pillion seat and not a rear rack though and I should of done more homework before buying! Just fitted mine today and it is not a great fit with my RR rear carrier. That is not a criticism of the RR carrier though and pretty much any similar size rack is going to be an issue. The bag itself is super quality and comes with an inner waterproof bag (no rain cover). To use this on a rack and not cover the pillion it has to hanging over the back and sides of the rack. (Unless you have a very big rack) The base of the bag is soft and concave (designed for a seat) so by the time you put the rear straps on, back under itself, to the rear of your rack, the angle is too acute. You cannot tighten it down enough to keep the rear of the bag from lifting up and inch or more. So I used the included optional number plate straps and it is much more secure if not a tiny bit messy, those straps are going to get covered in dirt though.

It is firm now but the fit still isn't great, the base of the bag is soft and the metal rack is pushing up quite tightly against it. That won't last, the rack will wear a couple of holes in the base of the bag in a short space of time. I need to make up a plate, the same size as the base of the bag, of what material I'm not sure yet, and layer some foam on top of it and mount that to my rack. This bag would be perfect if it had a solid base version for racks.
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Me too that tailbag is nice. It is designed for the pillion seat and not a rear rack though and I should of done more homework before buying! Just fitted mine today and it is not a great fit with my RR rear carrier. That is not a criticism of the RR carrier though and pretty much any similar size rack is going to be an issue. The bag itself is super quality and comes with an inner waterproof bag (no rain cover). To use this on a rack and not cover the pillion it has to hanging over the back and sides of the rack. (Unless you have a very big rack) The base of the bag is soft and concave (designed for a seat) so by the time you put the rear straps on, back under itself, to the rear of your rack, the angle is too acute. You cannot tighten it down enough to keep the rear of the bag from lifting up and inch or more. So I used the included optional number plate straps and it is much more secure if not a tiny bit messy, those straps are going to get covered in dirt though.

It is firm now but the fit still isn't great, the base of the bag is soft and the metal rack is pushing up quite tightly against it. That won't last, the rack will wear a couple of holes in the base of the bag in a short space of time. I need to make up a plate, the same size as the base of the bag, of what material I'm not sure yet, and layer some foam on top of it and mount that to my rack. This bag would be perfect if it had a solid base version for racks.
Hello Eltel62
I will send you closer pics of my tailbag install this eve.
I have a steel toprack from SW Motech, and I am very pleased with the fitment. Straps are nice and tidy
Might be bit tight for pillion passenger, but my sweety has her own bike.
I am very pleased with this tailbag.
Send you pics this eve
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Hi Terry
As discussed, this is the attachment I used for my tqailbag.
Hope the pictures tell a clear story.
I am very happy with this attachment, the bag doesn't budge.
Cheers
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