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Titanium or not to titanium that is the question..

At a impasse... Me and the OEM bolts for the skid plate had a serious fight when they decided they didnít want to come out. A short time later, me armed with a hammer and chisel, they had lost that fight. So I got some lovable new Uber high tensile boots with nice big hex heads, but the needed some tapered washers to use, found some nice blue ones and all was well... But then I came across some cool looking titanium ones ( so I just HAD to get them ) but they are not as Ďhardí and a smaller hex head. So Iím going back-n-forth on what ones... Hmmmm.. Maybe Iíll use both and just swap them out each time I change the oil....
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Wow man. I think I would of grabbed some anti seize....
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Wow man. I think I would of grabbed some anti seize....
Lo I just over torqued them a bit and with those small hex heads they quickly striped right out.. well two of the six did, luckily it was the top front two that did...

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I thought real titanium was hard as a carp.
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I thought real titanium was hard as a carp.
The OEM bolts are just stainless but they (Honda) have a 5mm hex head on a 8mm bolt so... I mean, yea they did it just for convenience so the hex wrench will work with them too, but for gorillas like me that’s a bad combination (I REALLY should use a torque wrench). The aftermarket (black one’s pictured) are, in a word, EXCESSIVE! for use there, excessive in hardness and the hex head is over sized for the bolt diameter.. Lol, the titanium ones are actually just average across the board for them...
BTW titanium is just strong for its density as a metal, but pretty much any metals can be made to have high ( a higher ) tensile strength. Titanium is more for its weight and corrosion resistance for its tensile strength. yea steel can be and is stronger, but the trade off is weight and easily oxidized...

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I had the same issue with the 5mm allen head on an 8mm bolt. I replaced all 3 (Standard AT) with stainless 6mm allen cap head and stainless washers and used loctite which will hopefully seal the threads but 'break' easily enough come oil change time
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I had the same issue with the 5mm allen head on an 8mm bolt. I replaced all 3 (Standard AT) with stainless 6mm allen cap head and stainless washers and used loctite which will hopefully seal the threads but 'break' easily enough come oil change time
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They are EXCELLENT!!! uber high tensile strength and HUGE hex head..
BTW - If you order theses it will say not compatible with Africa Twin but they are talking about their intended purpose for the rear sprocket, they will work on 4 of the 6 bolts on the skid plate (2 front top & 2 front lower)...
I did end up getting countersunk washers for them, but they would/do work fine without them too...

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