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post #101 of 143 (permalink) Old 10-02-2017, 01:04 PM
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Well, it is a good idea, for all of us to remember that this forum is here to facilitate supporting each other and exchanging ideas on how to make the AT better. Comments as use the bike as is supposed to, or taking the piss about questions that other members have is not constrictive. I am sure everyone has their own area of expertise..


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What did you use to break the bead in the rear tyre? Have you tried tyre sealant? I just came back from a 527 mile trip and did a thorough inspection if the TA2's. Nothing on the front at all but two small marks on the rear where sharp objects have pierced the tread and then been expelled. I would love to know why some experience punctures and others don't. If we understood why we could then try and avoid them.
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You obviously haven't suffered a sudden deflation on the CRF1000 front wheel while riding it yet then?

Actually I have and posted about it on this site. And when the tyre (Dunlop OEM) was taken off we found nothing. No nail, nothing. just a hole in the tube. Which only goes to prove you can't legislate for everything on a motor bike. Fortunately I was only going about 55-60mph and it held up pretty well all things considered. I'm sorry you've had a bit of a disaster on your trips, always frustrating when that happens after all the excitement in the build up. I'm now on Conti TA2 as you know and are noticeably a better tyre in the wet especially. Are you saying you've fitted Outex and still have a tube on the front? Why? You can only fill one or the other so don't see the benefit.
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Well, it is a good idea, for all of us to remember that this forum is here to facilitate supporting each other and exchanging ideas on how to make the AT better. Comments as use the bike as is supposed to, or taking the piss about questions that other members have is not constrictive. I am sure everyone has their own area of expertise..


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I presume that's aimed at me. I didn't mean any offence so apologies if I offended you.....but really? applying tube sealant on the outside of the tyre? If my best mate had said that he would have the piss taken out of him mercilessly for a long time. I'm pretty sure a straw poll on this site would back me up on that. Anyway, no harm meant and apologies again.
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You obviously haven't suffered a sudden deflation on the CRF1000 front wheel while riding it yet then?

Actually I have and posted about it on this site. And when the tyre (Dunlop OEM) was taken off we found nothing. No nail, nothing. just a hole in the tube. Which only goes to prove you can't legislate for everything on a motor bike. Fortunately I was only going about 55-60mph and it held up pretty well all things considered. I'm sorry you've had a bit of a disaster on your trips, always frustrating when that happens after all the excitement in the build up. I'm now on Conti TA2 as you know and are noticeably a better tyre in the wet especially. Are you saying you've fitted Outex and still have a tube on the front? Why? You can only fill one or the other so don't see the benefit.
Ok sorry i was assuming

Because i had a leak overnight after fitting the outex kit F+R (in the front spoke area) and was going on a trip the day after so i had to remove the tyre etc and refit the tube for the weekend and its still in there.

My rear 'blowout' last year was similar to your experience in that there was no evidence except a 8mm diameter hole in the tyre carcass and tube but i actually 'heard' that one and eased off immediately (but its easier to control with a rear puncture)
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I presume that's aimed at me. I didn't mean any offence so apologies if I offended you.....but really? applying tube sealant on the outside of the tyre? If my best mate had said that he would have the piss taken out of him mercilessly for a long time. I'm pretty sure a straw poll on this site would back me up on that. Anyway, no harm meant and apologies again.


It is just a general comment. I have noticed, that in this forum except a few members (Eltek, Mike, Djairouks..To name a few) that try to help there is a lot of thrash talking .....Ohh why you have a dct....Why u ride the bike on the road, it's an off road machine...Use it as is meant ....bla bla bla.....It non of anyone's business how and when I ride my bike..We are in this forum to help each other...Lets just do that an enjoy our AT. As far my question, it was more of an exaggeration admitting that I never had experience with those type of products. Hence I first said that I have two stupid questions. I have 3 degrees ....I am sure that if I had the product in my hands I would be able to work it out.


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That's not the Three Degress that were Prince Charles favourite singers is it? I love a helpful forum but on most forums you always end up with the real internet heroes. If you think this is bad have a look at UKGsers. Hilarious.
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Outex is working Good with my KTM690 for last 2 years ,Need to Fit Tubelesstires with outex
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Planning the 3m tape this winter. Can someone tell me how much is needed, front and rear? I'm guessing two wraps and cover with gorilla tape?

Also, what size metal valve stem?

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Planning the 3m tape this winter. Can someone tell me how much is needed, front and rear? I'm guessing two wraps and cover with gorilla tape?

Also, what size metal valve stem?
Earlier in the week I found a You Tube video of a guy using 3M 4411N tape to do his sealing. It shows the process well:

On another site I found someone who used 50mm tape on the rear and 32mm on the front. Unfortunately I think it only comes on a roll, I don't think you can get shorter lengths!! I am very tempted to get a roll of each and split the costs with someone in South Africa.

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