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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 08-10-2018, 02:47 AM
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I don't have that problem here in Poland, local dealer have 17,18, ATAS 17 and 18, DCT, manual etc. so it's only my problem what to choose




Yeah that's sounds really good, self cancelling indicators seems to be nice future too
I'm already disliking the self cancelling indicators. I posted a while back about it https://www.africatwinforum.com/foru...tml#post280426

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I'm already disliking the self cancelling indicators. I posted a while back about it https://www.africatwinforum.com/foru...tml#post280426
I'm with you about sillness of the self-cancelling indicators: too semplistic the logic, either distance (250 meters) or time (about 7 seconds) will cancel them. I'm used to activate turn signal well before I turn, just to be sure who follows knows what I'm doing, but several time I found myself with the indicators off in the middle of the road
I'm learning to postpone their activation, but I don't feel good about that...
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I just picked up my ATAS DCT 2018 and love it. The auto canceling turn signals don't seem to work super well for me, but everything else is amazing. I know I could have saved $4K or more on a 2017 model, but if you consider all the standard equipment in the AS, and all the modifications seems like having the 30th Anniversary AS is the way to go if cash isn't an issue.
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Western honda in scottsdale az sold my buddy an africa twin DCT for $11k plus tax. he said they had a bunch of them.

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Western honda in scottsdale az sold my buddy an africa twin DCT for $11k plus tax. he said they had a bunch of them.
I hope those who are buying the leftover 2017 models are getting it much less than $11K. If I was in the market for a 2017 model I'd be bargaining for $9K OTD because before the ATAS was announced or released the 2017 AF was selling for $11+K already.
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The Greek magazine Moto dynoed the ATAS and found that it had lost 7 horsepower on the rear wheel, yielding 80 PS as opposed to the 87 PS of the 2016/2017 models. They were surprised and dynoed a second example, getting the same output. They thought this might have to do with the new drive-by-wire system.


Do we know of any other dyno measurements of the 2018 models engine output?
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The Greek magazine Moto dynoed the ATAS and found that it had lost 7 horsepower on the rear wheel, yielding 80 PS as opposed to the 87 PS of the 2016/2017 models. They were surprised and dynoed a second example, getting the same output. They thought this might have to do with the new drive-by-wire system.

Do we know of any other dyno measurements of the 2018 models engine output?


More likely to be the Euro 4 shite causing the drop (16/17s were Euro3 i believe) but the 18 dct is brilliant in comparison to my previous 16 manual

Easily solved by adding a 'smart IAT' sensor (or other fuel enrichment device)

One major bugbear on the earlier bikes was the tiny footrests, they have also been improved for bigger ones and the rear footrest hanger brackets which were redesigned (they used to bruise your calf muscles)

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More likely to be the Euro 4 shite causing the drop (16/17s were Euro3 i believe) but the 18 dct is brilliant in comparison to my previous 16 manual

The 2016s were Euro 3 but the 2017s Euro 4, this was one of the few changes 2016->2017, the other one being double-dipped spokes.
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I'm in the same boat. Do I buy a 17 discounted to $9,700 US (MSRP 13,299) or the 18 with a few upgrades at $11,110 (MRSP 13,499)? Are the upgrades noted below worth the extra $1400?

Upgrades to include:
New instrument panel
Throttle by wire
Three riding modes (Tour, Urban, Gravel)
Minor intake and exhaust changes
Lighter balancer shafts
Lithium-ion battery
Seven levels of HSTC (traction control)
Wider footpegs with steel brackets
Redesigned passenger pegs
Redesigned LED turn signals
Self Cancelling turn signals
Stainless Spokes
Coated Fork Tubes
New exhaust
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