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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 09-29-2018, 07:19 AM Thread Starter
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DCT low speed manoeuvres

I am liking the DCT gearbox in general, but I'm really struggling with low speed stuff such as tight U-turns. Never had a problem before on other Adventure bikes, so I am putting it down to the DCT box and the lack of a clutch to modulate speed.
Probably mostly lack of confidence on my part, but I need to get this cracked - do you have any particular techniques that you use?
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try dragging the rear brake a little, works for me
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Hi Maxply, I know what you mean as I was a little frustrated with my shoddy u turns etc.
You are dead right it is a lack of clutch confidence thing, the trust the DCT it copes with crawling pace well.
make sure you use the roll on the tyres by leaning it over well keep yourself upright and as keno351 said drag that rear brake a little if you need too it does help.
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As Zippyworld says, thats my exact technique. Takes a while to adjust the lack of clutch, but once your use to it, itís fine.

One thing I donít understand with Honda, why didnít they put a rear brake lever on the left handle bar? Makes total sense to me and others alike, especially when you need to keep both feet on the ground, maybe on an incline, but also it would make slow speed manoeuvring a doddle.
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I supply ample rear brake (as much as I need) when doing U-turns and slow maneuvers.
Found out that the ECU will slip the clutch if you're on the throttle and braking.
So while everyone says use 'little'; I say use as much as you need.
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Once you have developed enough finesse with the throttle hand, you will need less braking.
Recently, I have moved onto tight full lock, U-turns using the front brake to turn the wheel even quicker.
aka MotoGymkhana.
Now, the rear brake is almost never used in slow stuff.
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shedracer,
Honda did put a rear brake lever on the left side it's called the park brake, not to be used to stop the bike from speed, but works good in slow speed turns [u turns] sharp right hand down hill hair pins [ you can put right foot on ground]you can lock the rear wheel and slide the rear wheel, use it like clutch but in reverse, a ply a little throttle and use the rear hand brake to slow bike down.
I have used it all the the time in slow speed manoeuvring. Try it, if does not work for you don't do it. It is the one of the many advantages of the dct trany.
maxply try it, it may help.
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Thanks for all the input. I have tried using the parking brake on difficult uphill re-starts where I need both feet down & as you say it does help. Been out practising U-turns today and starting to see some improvement - will try the parking brake judiciously on U-turns on my next practice session.
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Can honestly never say I have ever used the parking break.
mind you my bike sees the muddy stuff as a rare treat, mostly commutes/rides on tarmac.
Will try it on the A414 on run to work tomorrow just to see the looks on car drivers face lol
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Can honestly never say I have ever used the parking break.
mind you my bike sees the muddy stuff as a rare treat, mostly commutes/rides on tarmac.
Will try it on the A414 on run to work tomorrow just to see the looks on car drivers face lol
Whenever off tarmac it's a good discipline to get into to use the parking brake. Replicates leaving trail bike in gear.

As has been said...applying rear brake is the way to control low speed manouverability. Watch YouTube videos of the Californian Highway Patrol in their bikes.

Matter of practice.. familiarity with surface, adhesion, degree of brake application...

Over time you can blend with the front brake too...recognising that adhesion and keen angle are important to recognise.

Decent crash bars a good investment before you practice...and maybe try it on dry short soft grass....

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Five good reasons you should not use the parking brake when there is a proper rear brake:
1. It wasn't designed for it.
2. Has limited braking power
3. The pads wear much quicker
4. May damage the rotor
5. There is a rear brake?
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