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post #11 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-07-2019, 04:52 PM
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why not get a proper module like a rapid bike? No problems with euro or not euro bikes ,work way better than a PC5 .
Pc5 is the past (also soon they will start to sell the power vision for more models)

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why not get a proper module like a rapid bike? No problems with euro or not euro bikes ,work way better than a PC5 .

Pc5 is the past (also soon they will start to sell the power vision for more models)
Probably because the topic poster said this is a discussion about power commander.

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RevZilla says the PC5 is compatible with the 2018 ASA. So that isn't accurate, I take it?

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No listing for the CRF1000 on the US power commander site
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No listing for the CRF1000 on the US power commander site
Welp. That settles it. Not finishing that cart purchase. Thanks for the heads up.

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Here's an insurance update for any UK guys. My insurer wants a 20% premium loading for basic powercommander. I decided to run a comparison site and 3 separate individual insurers with and without a powercommander and all except one wanted between Ģ50 and Ģ60 extra per year. I suspect that the one that didn't want any extra (MCE) was after new business at any cost because they were about Ģ200 cheaper than anyone else. Either that or after buying, the paperwork would have conveniently for them missed off the modifications.
This is a large ongoing cost that needs to be factored in to the purchase price of a powercommander. However, I suspect that it's not just Powercommander but ANY engine modification device (Rapid Bike, boosterplug etc). If you don't declare it, you run the risk of a claim being denied and they are pretty obvious to any insurance assessor - unlike an ecu remap if that works for you.
I have told my insurer that they are probably overpenalising most people fitting these devices these days as we are fitting them not to increase performance but to make the bike more comfortable. But I am one lone voice :-)
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Probably because the topic poster said this is a discussion about power commander.

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Thatīs why i wrote rapid Bike , not so difficult to understand
better product , better software , lot of settings , not need an autotune as itīs already included .
Plus as i already wrote there are no problems to dyno honda bikes with DCT.

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Thatīs why i wrote rapid Bike , not so difficult to understand
better product , better software , lot of settings , not need an autotune as itīs already included .
Plus as i already wrote there are no problems to dyno honda bikes with DCT.
I'm personally interested in it. It's just the OP asked that the discussion be limited to discussion about Power Commander. Unless Rapid Bike is another product from Dynajet- **** if I know.

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Thatīs why i wrote rapid Bike , not so difficult to understand [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/AfricaTwinForum/smilies/tango_face_angel.png[/IMG]
better product , better software , lot of settings , not need an autotune as itīs already included .
Plus as i already wrote there are no problems to dyno honda bikes with DCT.
I'm personally interested in it. It's just the OP asked that the discussion be limited to discussion about Power Commander. Unless Rapid Bike is another product from Dynajet- **** if I know.

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I’ve been resisting replying to this as it will almost certainly turn into a debate about why one is better than the other but no RapidBike is not from Dynajet (makers of the powercommander) and FWIW my experience is that a RapidBike product made no difference when I tried it last year whereas a powercommander 10 years ago solved a similar problem so I’d like to find out if anyone has experience of the powercommander and if not I will probably take the plunge and report back on here then people have another information source when deciding what to buy
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(And I should emphasise that the RapidBikeEasy which I tried is very ‘cheap’ and a more expensive RapidBike product may well work)
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Rapidbike easy itīs simple a O2 sensor emulator .
You have to compare the EVO to the PC5
If i tell you about this product is not because iīm selling them but cause as owner of 49 bikes i have and had lot of PC5 and PC3 units and few rapid bike aswel .
There is no debate at all , rapid bike evo and racing are for sale since 1 year before dynojet .
Faced with the problem PC5 corrently have , unable to sell product who is working on close loop area (thatīs for most of new euro4 hondas)
Adding :rapid bike gonna use the O2 sensor for auto-adaptive feature , sort of autotune of dynojet but already included in the module (no extra 325$ expense )

Wanna hear about PC5 experiences with euro4 ?
Dynojet was unable to fix the problem in closed loop so i bought a rapid bike like i did for my Cb1000r+.
But sure hey , here all are professional involved with bikes since 30 years...



P.s. also itīs dynojet with O not dynajet ...

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Rapidbike easy itīs simple a O2 sensor emulator .
You have to compare the EVO to the PC5
If i tell you about this product is not because iīm selling them but cause as owner of 49 bikes i have and had lot of PC5 and PC3 units and few rapid bike aswel .
There is no debate at all , rapid bike evo and racing are for sale since 1 year before dynojet .
Faced with the problem PC5 corrently have , unable to sell product who is working on close loop area (thatīs for most of new euro4 hondas)
Adding :rapid bike gonna use the O2 sensor for auto-adaptive feature , sort of autotune of dynojet but already included in the module (no extra 325$ expense )

Wanna hear about PC5 experiences with euro4 ?
Dynojet was unable to fix the problem in closed loop so i bought a rapid bike like i did for my Cb1000r+.
But sure hey , here all are professional involved with bikes since 30 years...



P.s. also itīs dynojet with O not dynajet ...
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I have the Evo installed as well with a full system and I have not experienced ANY rough idling or back firing.

I know the EVO is a bit pricey, and you know I hate forking out $$$, but the EVO is worth it.
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