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TequilaSqueela 04-05-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by roy826 (Post 301243)
Is the problem solved on US 2017 models using a PCV? I already have the Akrapovic slipon and plan on aftermarket air filters soon simply so I can clean them. I'd like a PCV as well if it is plug and play with a downloadable map. I'm not hauling this thing to a dyno which is 430 miles away. I've read so many posts about error codes and such using the dynojet PCV. I currently have no roughness down low or jerky throttle symptoms. My bike actually runs pretty clean but wouldn't mind a little more HP.

I don't think you would find what you're looking for, to be honest.

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roy826 04-05-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TequilaSqueela (Post 301253)
I don't think you would find what you're looking for, to be honest.

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Didn't think so, sad the Honda is so weird when it comes to a PCV. Always has great results on Suzuki race bikes with either a ECU flash or PCV plus a dyno run in.

Ultrak2dog 04-05-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by roy826 (Post 301255)
Quote:

Originally Posted by TequilaSqueela (Post 301253)
I don't think you would find what you're looking for, to be honest.

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Didn't think so, sad the Honda is so weird when it comes to a PCV. Always has great results on Suzuki race bikes with either a ECU flash or PCV plus a dyno run in.

Can you please explain why that wouldn’t be what he would be looking for? I to am wanting my 2017 at to be running it’s very best. Was thinking pc, Yoshimura exhausts, and k&n air filter. Good? No good?

Ghostrider.1127 04-05-2019 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mike5100 (Post 301235)
This fits with what Dynajet in the UK are saying to me. And they said two weeks but that was at least a month ago
Mike

Come on ...
Sound a bit like the pc5 for Cb1000r 2018 will be ready in october 2018 ?
Than dynojet realized in november 2018 itīs not working properly...
After that no news ....
They are working on it .
Will be happy if they are able solve this problems soon , looks to me that will not happen.

Thatīs why i told you to think about a Rapid Bike , as i know this is working , have one on my ATAS

No iīm not producing or selling Rapid Bike.

mike5100 04-05-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider.1127 (Post 301283)
Come on ...
Sound a bit like the pc5 for Cb1000r 2018 will be ready in october 2018 ?
Than dynojet realized in november 2018 itīs not working properly...
After that no news ....
They are working on it .
Will be happy if they are able solve this problems soon , looks to me that will not happen.

Thatīs why i told you to think about a Rapid Bike , as i know this is working , have one on my ATAS

No iīm not producing or selling Rapid Bike.

Yeah I know Ghostrider, and I appreciate the input.
Mike

[email protected] 04-21-2019 03:43 PM

Hi all, I added a power commander 5. New air fliters and an akrapovic exhaust system..
Guys this has totally change my bike. No more low end lag. Its just pure power. Power. Power.
A bit expensive. To be honest. But what a difference. Amazing.
If you are in the UK. Get these guys to fit it all for you. https://www.moorespeedracing.co.uk
Best customer service ever..

mike5100 04-21-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 302383)
Hi all, I added a power commander 5. New air fliters and an akrapovic exhaust system..
Guys this has totally change my bike. No more low end lag. Its just pure power. Power. Power.
A bit expensive. To be honest. But what a difference. Amazing.
If you are in the UK. Get these guys to fit it all for you. https://www.moorespeedracing.co.uk
Best customer service ever..

Presumably it's the pre-2018 model you have?
Mike

TequilaSqueela 04-22-2019 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 302383)
Hi all, I added a power commander 5. New air fliters and an akrapovic exhaust system..
Guys this has totally change my bike. No more low end lag. Its just pure power. Power. Power.
A bit expensive. To be honest. But what a difference. Amazing.
If you are in the UK. Get these guys to fit it all for you. https://www.moorespeedracing.co.uk
Best customer service ever..

Also, any CELs or other issues?

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SkipD 04-22-2019 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mike5100 (Post 299227)
I would like to keep this thread purely about the powercommander rather than other methods of attempting to solve the problem (please )
I've done a search of all the subforums on here and it doesn't look like anyone has actually fitted a powercommander yet - if anyone has please shout up and tell us whether it works.
I am talking to Dynojet about fitting one to a 2018 model year bike. They say that they haven't got the kit out yet for the 2018 (but by implication it has been available for the earlier model).
They are also suggesting that for the DCT (because it can't be put on a rolling road dyno) the solution will be a powercommander 5 plus their autotune module. This is an expensive solution at over Ģ500 but the Africa Twin is such a brilliant bike that it may be worth it if it solves the one imperfection for me (well the heated grips, and the crap outside air temp guage are a nuisance as well :grin2:)
Whilst browsing their website I have come across what appears to be dynojet's equivalent of the RapidBikeEasy (which didn;t work for me). It's not listed yet as being available for the Africa Twin but I've asked them. Since it's just described as a fuel controller it may be more what we are after if all we are trying to do is solve Euro lean fuelling issues. http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...nder_pcfc.aspx
Mike
PS - I'm also exploring how insurance companies view these products and for this purpose (imroving low rev fuelling) it seems they are quite accommodating - but will report back

I installed a Power Commander 5 that was built for the Africa Twin 2016-2017 in April 2017, straight plug and play install did it myself. My bike is a Jan 2016 build. Purchased from Revzilla in the US. Installed on original pipe and muffler with stock mapping. Made a difference but not dramatic. Removed CAT with a set of Black Widow headers, that made a slight difference as well. Then had it re-tuned on a Dyno that made a big difference. To do that you have to disable the Pair Reed Valve, that really means you have to get down to the Throttle Body and remove that to block off the air supply for the PRV. An easy 15% gain from 2k rpm all the way through to 4500rpm very crisp response, plus good gain across the entire rev range. Key thing on the 16-17 models is the CAT puts a hole in the TQ curve between 2-4.5 k rpm I think that's why they went to twin CATS in 18 models. Does not matter if you go PC V or Rapid Bike if you don't disable the pair valve at time of tuning you a pissing into the wind. So the outcome of the story was the big gain is in the headers not the muffler if you want to change hardware. There is a big punch in performance especially when you first crack the throttle after a re-tune.


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