Using Your Side Stand Kill Switch to Maintain Your Settings - Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin Forum
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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-05-2016, 01:49 PM Thread Starter
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Many people have mentioned that when you turn off your Africa Twin CRF1000L you loose all the settings you have put into the motorcycles computer system.


Well no more. All you have to do to maintain the settings you have put into your motorcycle is shut the Africa Twin off using the side kick stand. You know that annoying safety function that automatically shuts off the engine when you put the kick stand down when the bike is still in gear.


Well, use the side stand as your kill switch and the bike will remember your personal programming for you and you won't have to reset it every time you go for a ride....


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What part of personal programme do you mean?
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Well, use the side stand as your kill switch and the bike will remember your personal programming for you and you won't have to reset it every time you go for a ride....
That trick will only work as long as you don't turn the ignition off.
Once you turn power off, you're back to default settings.

Also, it has been reported on DCT models, that this trick may degrade PCM
performance over time. No proof, just a precaution, that there is risks
involved in trying to circumvent what the engineers have designed to do.

IMO, the convenience vs risk is overwhelmingly against this trick.
I have a DCT model. I also make sure to put bike in Neutral before
I shut off with the ignition key. YMMV(your mileage may vary)

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After putting 52k miles on my AT since I posted,
I must update the previous caution of using the kickstand "kill" method:
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It's simply the best way, if you want to keep settings the way you had them.
Does nothing to affect any normal operation of the bike.
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After putting 52k miles on my AT since I posted,
I must update the previous caution of using the kickstand "kill" method:
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It's simply the best way, if you want to keep settings the way you had them.
Does nothing to affect any normal operation of the bike.
I'm 1000's km away from my bike right now.
Reading this, I still have to assume that even though you 'kill' the engine by dropping the side stand, as soon as you turn the ignition off settings return to default a soon as you turn ignition back on right? Pretty much the same result as operating the engine kill switch to keep settings (Drive mode/Traction control etc.), as long as the ignition remains on. Except with the latter method you still have to drop your side-stand if you want to get off the bike of course.

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The sidestand method is fine for quick stops and such, but certainly isn't a 'cure'.

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Hey guys-

I installed a Traction Control Module from 12 O'clock Performance. Works like a charm. It doesn't however control rear ABS so when off road you'll still need to turn that off if its a longer stop and the kick stand option is not employed. There was another thread on this before.
https://www.africatwinforum.com/foru...ry-module.html
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Puzzled

I am puzzled as to which settings we are talking about here?

My 2018 HAT does not lose any settings when switched off then on
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I am puzzled as to which settings we are talking about here?

My 2018 HAT does not lose any settings when switched off then on
I think this is a '16 thru '17 model years issue.
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I'm 1000's km away from my bike right now.
Reading this, I still have to assume that even though you 'kill' the engine by dropping the side stand, as soon as you turn the ignition off settings return to default a soon as you turn ignition back on right? Pretty much the same result as operating the engine kill switch to keep settings (Drive mode/Traction control etc.), as long as the ignition remains on. Except with the latter method you still have to drop your side-stand if you want to get off the bike of course.
The kill switch will not retain traction control settings.
Your traction control level will go back to default with the kill switch.
Only the sidestand method will retain all settings: TC-level, ABS-off, G-mode (DCT).

Not sure if it works the same on manual transmission bikes. I ride DCT.
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