So...today I visited the new ATAS2020. Looks great and just by sitting on it, i'm almost certain that some real improvements were considered. BUT...nevertheless I took my mini-flashlight and started to noose around the old "new" frame details...guys it's the same pile of horse dumping. I'm was not expecting that...I'm speechless...and strangely comforted with the status. The new Honda pray is "this is our standard product finish" ... all my weight was used agains me...the perfect OSOTO-GARY! ippon! I quit!