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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-07-2019, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
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ES Preload Mistake

So the ES lets you configure preload for 2 user settings. However Honda has programmed it incorrectly and no one spotted it during quality checks. When you select User 1 it selects the preload settings you have input for User 2 and vice versa. This is no problem but I am amazed that such an error could get through without being picked up??
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-07-2019, 03:23 PM
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I have no played yet with the user settings. I wil try it
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post #3 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-07-2019, 04:33 PM Thread Starter
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Clearly Honda did not play with it much either. Or any of the dealers and journalists on the launch.

It might just be the UK spec software, I dont know.

For User1 set preload to 1 and for user2 set it to 20.

When you move from User1 to User2 you will feel the back end move down when it should move up. All of the other settings are fine. Just preload.
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May be UK version driving left? I will test over 2 weeks when I an back.
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It is not a big issue. For me it is more interesting that none of the test riders, none of the hundreds of dealers or none of the thousands of journalists who were taken to Sardinia for the launch spotted it. Not one. Does this speak of the superficial nature of the way these events take place. More focus on the scenery and hospitality?
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Clearly Honda did not play with it much either. Or any of the dealers and journalists on the launch.

It might just be the UK spec software, I dont know.

For User1 set preload to 1 and for user2 set it to 20.

When you move from User1 to User2 you will feel the back end move down when it should move up. All of the other settings are fine. Just preload.
How do you know it should move up?
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When you select rider + pillion + luggage the default setting in all pre set modes is 20 for preload. When you select this option you can feel the electric motor winding on the preload and the seat rising.
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When you select rider + pillion + luggage the default setting in all pre set modes is 20 for preload. When you select this option you can feel the electric motor winding on the preload and the seat rising.
How do you know it should move up?

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post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-09-2019, 02:44 PM
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Cause the preload is hydraulic and activate with an oil pump , so you hear and feel it .
than it´s pretty easy to feel if the preload increase (hard) or decrease (soft)

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If pre load increases the seat must rise . Adding pre load means the suspension will be less compressed for a given load. With the shock loaded it will extend as pre load is added and since the wheel cant move the seat must rise. The only time the seat wont rise is when the shock is fully extended. Pre load does nothing more than change ride height, dosnt affect how 'hard' the suspension is - that's dictated by spring rate. Neither does it affect how the suspension responds - that's the damping. Preload is all about sag.
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