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08-27-2019 03:33 AM
XLGeorge
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Originally Posted by Desert rider View Post
Hey XLGeorge did the 43 sprocket make much difference for off-road riding & much difference on your gas mileage ❓❓

It has made the 1st gear slightly shorter and this has helped in slow/difficult off road passages, it has also helped in steep uphill/downhill riding. But it has helped even more on tarmac as the 6th gear has become much more usable throughout the range. I think my gas mileage may have even increased because of this but it has certainly not worsened.
08-26-2019 05:38 PM
knoxswift
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Originally Posted by SkipD View Post
The plugs get a check at 24,000km make sure the gap is not over 1mm (first valve check) replaced at the next one 48,000km (second valve check)
Coolant is NOT drained to do valve check. Coolant is changed at time, 3 years you don't need to do much other than undo one drain screw on side case then refill radiators for that, does not need to happen at valve check you can do that without disconnecting radiators. On the invoice there will typically be oil and filter $75(that's a kit in a box here in AU including the washers) , air filters $90 labour 8 hours and whatever else they may have done? So depending on what labour rate they quote that's a big chunk of the inv
Thanks. other bikes I've had they have to remove the radiator...
08-09-2019 05:39 PM
Desert rider Hey XLGeorge did the 43 sprocket make much difference for off-road riding & much difference on your gas mileage ❓❓
08-01-2019 09:09 AM
sjhoff67 I had the valves checked at 17k miles. Just one of the exhaust valves needed adjustment all the others were within tolerances. While they were checking the valves I had them replace the air filters as well. My total cost including the air filters was $567. I was billed for 7.5 hrs labor.
07-22-2019 03:46 AM
SkipD
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Originally Posted by knoxswift View Post
So on the invoices from dealers, I'm curious. when they did the job is New Coolant charged?
New Spark Plugs charged? or do they just put back the old?
These are things that don't make sense. 100K coolant but needs to be drained to do valve check?
Check Plugs, but you're in there so might as well just change them out?

So just curious what people's dealer invoices actually read for this $1000+?
The plugs get a check at 24,000km make sure the gap is not over 1mm (first valve check) replaced at the next one 48,000km (second valve check)
Coolant is NOT drained to do valve check. Coolant is changed at time, 3 years you don't need to do much other than undo one drain screw on side case then refill radiators for that, does not need to happen at valve check you can do that without disconnecting radiators. On the invoice there will typically be oil and filter $75(that's a kit in a box here in AU including the washers) , air filters $90 labour 8 hours and whatever else they may have done? So depending on what labour rate they quote that's a big chunk of the inv
07-18-2019 11:17 PM
Im_Too_Tired
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Originally Posted by jamnut View Post
... Labor was 5 hours billed at $212.50 with parts being billed at $249.00, totaling $461.00.
Nice deal other than having to wait 28 days. Here in Florida the rate is $130/hr
07-18-2019 07:22 PM
lhedrick I just don't get why Honda did this to people. An adventure bike needs to be serviceable. An air filter needs to be a 10 minute job.

As for valves I'm now 65 and run my bikes easy these days. Just touring/camping and easy cruising. No more hi-RPM stuff like when I was in my 20s.

I can easily run a bike to 80km (50,000 miles) and not worry about valve shim clearance. Last time I checked a set of valves at 30,000 miles the were still fine. So I no longer even think about them.

I was giving the AT a serious look but from all I have seen/read/heard, I may take it off the list. I think I will wait till I can see the Yamaha T700. I like the size, fit, more power then I need but I have got to have a bike that is easy to service.
07-18-2019 05:23 AM
Davy F My bike has now turned over 16k miles and I donít intend to get the valve check carried out until itís winter hibernation period. At most, Iíll have another 1500/2000 more miles done by then and as other have reported, bikes are still in spec at up to 20k miles.
07-17-2019 10:17 AM
Grizzly I normally work on all my bikes. I've been deep into motors with no issues other than some busted knuckles and cuss words. After reading this thread I am glad I opted for the 3 year maintenance plan when I bought it. Typically dealers make **** tons of money on these because people dont ride. I ride on avg 10k-15k miles per year. So I'll be well into the 30's by the time the service agreement runs out. Sounds like at 12k i'll be ahead in costs with $1000+ mentioned for the valve checks/adjustment, The 3 year plan was an additional $1500. It covers the bike for everything according to Honda's maintenance schedule.
07-16-2019 06:14 PM
Ziggy About 1/2 way through my 2nd valve check at 36K miles, yeah, running a bit behind due to being on a trip.
This is a HUGE PITA undertaking IMHO but totally doable if you are careful and document what you are doing and have a copy of Hondas TERRIBLE shop manual.

If you don't have confidence in yourself as a mechanic don't even consider it.

The ATwin like most current bikes in designed with CAD and there isn't a spare inch of anything, ****, there is hardly AIR in between components.
Someone said their shop did the job in 4 hours. Sorry, but I believe they SAID they did it.. but did not really, you'd have to be a freaking wiz-bang mechanic with 8 octopus arms to do it that fast.
Takes me 3 days. I work until I cannot stand it any more, and when I start cursing in Japanese I knock off for the day.
Once the valves are exposed.... CHECKING them takes 15 minutes... Adjusting depends on whether or not the intakes are off; if so you must pull the camshaft and swap shims...

By the way.. anyone know what diameter shims this thing uses??? Can't seem to find a positive answer.

My '13 Triumph Trophy is as bad or worse. $1200 bucks plus for a 20K service... I do that myself as well, but curse in British...
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