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05-19-2019 01:36 PM
AT-Dragon
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Originally Posted by KiwiMark View Post
Given the hassles you have had, this seems like a very sensible thing to do!
Maybe Honda should have done that when they made the bike?
Normally most of these clip nuts usually ďsnapĒ in place but it seems on the ATís itís hit or miss some stay in place and others have issues and when they do.... They are a real PITA.
05-18-2019 06:27 PM
KiwiMark
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Originally Posted by AT-Dragon View Post
BTW I ended up siliconing mine in place...
Given the hassles you have had, this seems like a very sensible thing to do!
Maybe Honda should have done that when they made the bike?
05-18-2019 08:24 AM
AT-Dragon Itís like Honda engineered it eat things and be a PITA. Just have the seat off and randomly drop a small object like a screw/nut/bolt and it WILL fall into a hole and be a whole big project to get it out. The plastics are all at a slope and quite a few of them slope down to a space where what ever falls can fall even farther (as the case under the front seat pan) and the funny thing is, it seems like there is no real reason to have a gap in those places. And sorry to hear Iím not the only one too, with those OEM nuts for the rack that really should be at least somewhat secure or accessible of the fall out so easy... But I will ad, this aside, I do love this bike..
BTW I ended up siliconing mine in place...
05-17-2019 12:53 PM
Nick_rp I disassembled the rear to see about doing a DIY fender eliminator (yes yes it's there for a reason I know) 4 hours and a couple broken fairing tags later, I decided I never want to do that again so I'm sticking with saddle bags on this bike.

Nightmare is right
05-16-2019 10:26 PM
WestTexasSpaceCowboy Nearly the exact same thing happened to me. Spent all day carefully learning how to disassemble the rear half of the bike in order to install the Bumot frame. After carefully reassembling 99% of it (and semi struggling with holding the two mid-line under frame nuts in place with a small screwdriver whilst getting the bolts started) on of those 2 #%@&ing nuts you mention fell down beneath everything I had assembled. Yes I had to completely disassemble everything a second time. I taped the 2 mid-line nuts and the 2 rear suspect nuts in place this time. Second time start to finish was about 45min, lol. Had 2 minor crashes in mud 12 days ago and the Bumots performed amazing. I love them and think they are great. Honda's engineering, not so much.
05-16-2019 06:00 AM
AT-Dragon
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Originally Posted by TequilaSqueela View Post
Leaving bolts loose until all parts are assembled is standard for any assembly involving metal frame parts. Exercise equipment, shelves, and pannier racks.

This seems a bit dramatic, to be honest.

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Got a set of 100$ racks for my KLR and the alignment was better then these. Bolts just dropped in no push or pulling what so ever..
05-16-2019 05:57 AM
AT-Dragon Well Iím glad that none of you had an issue with the nut for the OEM rack falling out and sliding down the inner fender well. I did, and if it happens to anyone else Iím sure theyíll agree with me or spend some time and just take off your inner fender well and let me know how that goes. Who knows maybe the idiot that installed those nuts screwed it up... All I can tell you is one fell completely out of its ďholderĒ and the other was just hanging there. So YES it was a PITA fishing a nut out of the side of the bike pretty close to the passenger rear foot peg. But the best part is putting it back where it belongs there is NO ACCESS to it save for dropping the nut on the inner fender and fishing it back up through the hole it fell out of........ Other than that, yea the aftermarket racks were a breeze I would of been done in 20min or so.. BTW I am willing to stop by and tackle the OEM rack off anyoneís bike and push those nuts through if itís no big deal to put them back on..
05-15-2019 09:24 AM
TequilaSqueela
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Originally Posted by kwb377 View Post
Pretty much every bolt-on accessory (motorcycle, automobile, etc.) I've mounted says the same thing in the instructions.



That qualifies as an "OMG!" nightmare?
Leaving bolts loose until all parts are assembled is standard for any assembly involving metal frame parts. Exercise equipment, shelves, and pannier racks.

This seems a bit dramatic, to be honest.

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05-14-2019 02:13 PM
kwb377
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Originally Posted by AT-Dragon View Post
...any installation sheet that purposely said s leave ALL the bolts loose until they are all installed, to me, screams misalignment/poor fitment.
Pretty much every bolt-on accessory (motorcycle, automobile, etc.) I've mounted says the same thing in the instructions.

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I might note that it’s not like I had to get out C-clamps and use ratchet straps to get it together, it did just take a slight nudge here and there to get the bolts in.
That qualifies as an "OMG!" nightmare?
05-14-2019 05:45 AM
AT-Dragon Agreed it was pretty much Honda’s fault and the nut system they used, I would of had issues with any panniers that had required me to remove the stock rack to install them. That said, it would of went on in about 30min or so - but too - any installation sheet that purposely said s leave ALL the bolts loose until they are all installed, to me, screams misalignment/poor fitment. Maybe I’m expecting to much for 2k worth of boxes I would forgive a company a few months into a new model year for things being a little off, but the AS has been out for a bit now I would expect a company the tweek those issues. Instead I get a system ( if you think about it ) that kinda fits together. I don’t know, like I said, maybe I’m expecting to much for what I (we) paid for - after all is said and done - all the panniers are waaaay over priced for basically 3 aluminum boxes and a few pieces of steel tubing. I guess while I’m on about quality. I might point out the fact that the side box mounts are sad too. They allow the box to rub on the mounting frame thus scratching the paint on both the frame and box. Not a huge issue on the aluminum box, but the steel frame I expect to see rust on soon. Ok not really because I’M going to fix that
( but I shouldn’t have to ). And I could go on about the mounting plate for the top box that between that and the box are probably not far off from the 20lb weight limit for the stock rear rack.... Maybe it’s just me, but the more $$ I shell out the more I expect of things...
I might note that it’s not like I had to get out C-clamps and use ratchet straps to get it together, it did just take a slight nudge here and there to get the bolts in...
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