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09-29-2019 07:36 AM
Speedo007
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Originally Posted by Im_Too_Tired View Post
I understand and will have to wait on reviews and possible recalls on all the new gadgets and bits. I love/hate being first so for now good to know my '18 (and your '19) will being the current design for another 6 months here in the states. 100000km is more than I drive my auto in the last 10 years (I average less than 5,700km/year) and much less on the bike. I'm usually always too tired due to mild insomnia and don't see worldwide travel in my future, but if these are your plans I sure envy all others than can do this. Best of luck to you my friend, but my tired arse will eventually/hopefully be alleviated by technology.

I ride my car about 5-10000km a year, my bike about 25-30000km a year, so it shouldnt take too long hehe
09-28-2019 06:21 PM
Im_Too_Tired
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Still happy with my 2019, wont be changing it before I put 100000km on it
I understand and will have to wait on reviews and possible recalls on all the new gadgets and bits. I love/hate being first so for now good to know my '18 (and your '19) will being the current design for another 6 months here in the states. 100000km is more than I drive my auto in the last 10 years (I average less than 5,700km/year) and much less on the bike. I'm usually always too tired due to mild insomnia and don't see worldwide travel in my future, but if these are your plans I sure envy all others than can do this. Best of luck to you my friend, but my tired arse will eventually/hopefully be alleviated by technology.
09-26-2019 05:57 PM
Guri A little more information.

https://youtu.be/9tflSIzbOPY
09-26-2019 09:15 AM
Speedo007 Still happy with my 2019, wont be changing it before I put 100000km on it
09-26-2019 02:28 AM
Im_Too_Tired
Your Wish Has Been Granted !

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Also would prefer the AT losing weight over gaining more power, I think it's plenty capable on and offroad. I'd also be willing to pay for an electronic suspensions option. Go from on to offroad setup in 1 second.
Your wish has been granted, just step over here so we can collect your $20k (all fees included)... LOL


I like what they have done with the bike and I think it's worth it. When it comes to the states in 2020, I'll trade my '18 for one. Though I think they went overboard just to save weight in order to squeeze an extra 7hp. The exhaust seems like it can't be changed either to reap the power & efficiency benefits. Oh well, gotta love cc and elec susp.
08-10-2019 04:24 PM
AT-Dragon
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Originally Posted by Motobiker View Post
Trying to grab more sales from BMW. or if not BMW then the other big makers.

I actually don't consider the R1250GS to be an adventure bike.. what I think is that its a boxer powered sports bike disguised as an Adventure bike. And the supposed 1100 wont be a direct competitor for that

Maybe.. they are trying to steal sales from the F850GS and other similarly sized bikes. Tiger XC, even the KTM 1090, possibly.
Yea, maybe.... But I still say smaller would be better - a more nimble AT would be great for the single tracks
08-08-2019 05:56 PM
Motobiker
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Originally Posted by AT-Dragon View Post
Yea I’ve heard 1100L too, personally I ask why?
Trying to grab more sales from BMW. or if not BMW then the other big makers.

I actually don't consider the R1250GS to be an adventure bike.. what I think is that its a boxer powered sports bike disguised as an Adventure bike. And the supposed 1100 wont be a direct competitor for that

Maybe.. they are trying to steal sales from the F850GS and other similarly sized bikes. Tiger XC, even the KTM 1090, possibly.
08-08-2019 08:43 AM
Cuchulainn
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Originally Posted by AT-Dragon View Post
Yea unfortunately it’s a numbers game, a status thing - look at me my bike has xxx horsepower - and?????
Mostly an emissions game to meet the more stringent Euro 5 compliance isn't it? Honda has never seemed particularly interested in the cc/hp numbers games, trailing KTM, BMW, Ducati and Triumph in both.

https://www.cycleworld.com/honda-crf...etails-leaked/

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08-08-2019 05:44 AM
AT-Dragon
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Originally Posted by giaka View Post
It has more than enough power, the problem is the competition has more. Buddy just bought the big KTM, his exact words is the power is stupid. LOL Im pretty sure he meant that in a good way though.
Yea unfortunately it’s a numbers game, a status thing - look at me my bike has xxx horsepower - and????? - My ATAS has 94HP and I have to throttle back in first and second to keep the front tire from coming to far up. It is what it is a ADVENTURE bike for trips and off road EXPLORATION - It is NOT a drag bike, GT, motocross, kinda bike. Yes, OK, it can be (and has been) “converted” to a rally bike.
Bottom line is: after the front wheel comes off the ground the rest of the horsepower is useless, unless you wanna do burnouts or constantly wanna overtake and pass people.
08-07-2019 02:05 PM
giaka
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Originally Posted by AT-Dragon View Post
Yea I’ve heard 1100L too, personally I ask why? More weight for what, a few HP gain, honesty can anybody here who has ridden their AT off road say that it didn’t have enough HP. Sure if you were gonna extend the swing arm put a paddle tire on it and enter in some hill climbing events you might need a bit more HP - But for the other 99.99% of us, the AT has plenty of horses to pull you through nature’s finest...
Now a 650 or maybe a 850 yea that would be good for those who do more off road than on and want a bit more nimble bike..
It has more than enough power, the problem is the competition has more. Buddy just bought the big KTM, his exact words is the power is stupid. LOL Im pretty sure he meant that in a good way though.
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