Africa Twin Termignoni?

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Nessuno

Discussion Starter · Dec 7, 2015 (Edited)

Anyone know what the story is? First time I've seen the Termi pipe, first time I've seen any pipe other then OEM...

EDIT: Found this too (from EICMA I think)

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Yromulus

· #2 · Jan 23, 2016

Apparently, for the Facebookers among you, Termignoni have a new home photo or whatever it's called - I hope this link works but if not search "Termignoni Facebook" and you'll get it.

https://www.facebook.com/6555437536....393207.65554375368/10153466514420369/?type=3

The FB page also has a sound recording of the black one on a fly-by - sounds nice if that sort of thing rocks your boat.

I've said it before, and here goes again, that black does look really nice - although I imagine it might be even trickier than normal gloss black to keep clean. You see a lot of very shoddy looking matt black cars around because you can't polish them I guess - or can you?

marsbeetle

· #3 · Jan 23, 2016

Definitely keen on getting that Termignoni silencer if the price is reasonable! Not interested in the full exhaust system though.

rider_marc

· #4 · Jan 23, 2016

Hoping at least one company produces a slip-on or system where the muffler doesn't go so high on the bike.

marsbeetle

· #5 · Jan 23, 2016

rider_marc said:
Hoping at least one company produces a slip-on or system where the muffler doesn't go so high on the bike.

It needs to be high for river crossings, usually around the same height as the air intake. Depends on your needs of course.

anotherbiker

· #6 · Jan 23, 2016

Wonder if you'd need an ECU remap for it...

Davy F

· #7 · Jan 23, 2016 (Edited)

The full system does away with the cat, so a re-map would probably be needed.

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marsbeetle

· #8 · Jan 24, 2016 (Edited)

Davy F said:
The full system does away with the cat, so a re-map would probably be needed.

From what I can see, just the silencer section does away with the cat as it looks like a two-piece system with the headers being separate. This does not mean you need a re-map if you are simply going to replace the silencer section. The headers change the air flow more drastically not so much the cat and a combination of the two in a full system generally requires re-mapping.

My previous Ducati Monster had a full Arrow system but it wasn't necessary to do a re-map. This was because the lambda(oxygen) sensor could be fitted to the after market exhaust and accounted for any changes in the air / fuel ratio. Unfortunately not all bikes have this sensor.

So it really depends on the type of exhaust used and just how different it is from the manufacturers. You will quickly find out though whether it needs further tuning through excessive popping sounds etc.

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marsbeetle

· #9 · Jan 24, 2016

Termignoni Exhaust sound on the Honda CRF1000L:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfLntMfRxCA

Off topic question ...how do you embed youtube video's in this forum ?

marsbeetle

· #10 · Jan 24, 2016 (Edited)

Just saw this comment on Facebook from someone who has just placed an order for this system.

It's £678 for the end can Brendan Johnson but there is 10% off until the end of January. No price on down pipes yet but they will be available soon.

Seems very steep ...but if I look at the design 3/4 of the exhaust is basically the "end can" while the headers are relatively short in comparison. This also verifies what I said about it being a two-piece system.

Still not prepared to spend that much on an end can though! ...not with our current currency value anyway. I suspect Leo Vince will come up with something in a more favourable price range.

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Davy F

· #11 · Jan 24, 2016

The cat is incorporated into the headers.

Kugangles

· #12 · Jan 24, 2016

marsbeetle said:
Definitely keen on getting that Termignoni silencer if the price is reasonable! Not interested in the full exhaust system though.

Judging by the very high price's termi charges for their Ducati slip ons and system's, you'll be paying top dollar.

hombschy

· #13 · Jan 26, 2016

I would rather just wait as eventually Arrow, Akrapovic etc. will release a system/silencers for the AT

Husky93

· #14 · Jan 26, 2016

marsbeetle said:
Just saw this comment on Facebook from someone who has just placed an order for this system.

Seems very steep ...but if I look at the design 3/4 of the exhaust is basically the "end can" while the headers are relatively short in comparison. This also verifies what I said about it being a two-piece system.

Still not prepared to spend that much on an end can though! ...not with our current currency value anyway. I suspect Leo Vince will come up with something in a more favourable price range.

Rugged Roads are doing them for a lot less than that.

marsbeetle

· #15 · Jan 26, 2016 (Edited)

What I generally do when it comes to Italian exhausts or certain motorcycle parts is I purchase/import them directly from a dealer situated in the manufacturers country. I have always found the best deals doing this.

I'm a bit disappointed that Honda put the catalytic in the headers, this is very unusual. In most circumstances it would either be a separate component i.e. mid pipe which is the ideal situation or it is packed in the silencer. This means we will have to purchase the headers in addition to the silencer in order to get rid of that heavy chunk of metal that is the cat.

In the past I've even just ordered the piece that gets rid of the cat and kept the OEM silencer, might be an option here if the diameter is the same. Still saves a few kg's and improves the airflow. I did this on my R1 where the mid pipe was the cat and it had a separate pieces for the silencer and the headers.

Lastly, the OEM exhaust does have an oxygen sensor from looking at a manual diagram.

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Rory

· #16 · Jan 26, 2016

Hey Marsbug , we can cut the CAT out ,tig weld it up , and put a MINI cat in for the sensor , this is only needed if the sensor is behind or after the CAT . Many are before the cat then even easier ...easy fix ??

Davy F

· #17 · Jan 26, 2016

Hope this clarifies some peoples thinking.

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S4MST3R

· #18 · Jan 26, 2016

£601 in the UK from http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/Termignoni_Titanium_Sleeve_slip_on_Relevance_Silencer_Honda_CRF1000L__2016--product--17101.html

They also have Enduro rider pegs at £104 and Trial at £84

S4MST3R

· #19 · Jan 26, 2016

£528 at Rugged Roads, and the pegs above are £20 cheaper there too

http://ruggedroads.co.uk/epages/00cbb604-5d1c-407e-8207-580e14387ec5.sf/sec99c335c659/?ObjectPath=/Shops/00cbb604-5d1c-407e-8207-580e14387ec5/Categories/5/12/CRF1000L_SD04_20161

Elvisto

· #20 · Jan 27, 2016

That sounds a better deal, :wink2:

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