The bike was on standard suspension settings the dealer has confirmed. My apologies for the apparent confusion in my "review".
Excellent review Yromulus. I separated out your discussion of the DCT in case my (3 years now) experience with the NC700X DCT might help clarify your impressions of the dual clutch transmission and how to manage it for your needs (not the computer's needs).I just had a test ride of a DCT bike. The bike was the red, white and black one – looked absolutely lovely in the sunshine.
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Speed and acceleration were more than enough for me – it seems to gather speed without you realising it – perhaps because there are no real apparent surges in torque/power as it goes through the revs. The nature of the automatic gearbox no doubt helps here but you just seem to twist the throttle and it soon ends up going very quickly indeed. I'm not sure what you call it on an automatic bike but the equivalent of a kick-down in an automatic car – where you want the gearbox to change down to accelerate faster – needs a fair bit of movement in the throttle in D mode and slightly less so but still not insubstantial in the S modes. But once it does kick-down the performance is almost the same in both S and D modes – i.e. pretty good. No nose bleeds like my old R1s but enough. A lot of the reviews say that DCT won’t appeal to people who really push the bike on the road – fortunately I know I'm not really one of those people any more so it will do me fine. The benefits in general riding (involvement if you want it but otherwise relaxed riding) and what it apparently offers off-road are more than enough to justify it for me. Don’t blip the throttle at traffic lights unless you've put it in neutral by the way – once done, never forgotten. Whilst I remember, the only time I didn't like DCT was when in D mode going round a low speed sharp left turn – there it felt like I was free-wheeling with no engine braking. I mention this as it was weird – I'm sure you’d get used to it or learn to keep a little throttle on or have it in manual or maybe even one of the S modes.
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Lovely bike. Wish it had tubeless tyres…
There's a reset procedure as well, disconnecting the battery can upset the HISS module. I don't know if it's bike specific but the procedure is documented for the NC.Apparently if you disconnect the battery it resets back to default behaviour.
Yr' welcome.Thanks for the DCT info @JustPlainBillO. It all helps to understand how it works.
I notice on the AdvRider thread there is talk of DCT learning your behaviour if you override the computer whilst it is an automatic mode. Apparently if you disconnect the battery it resets back to default behaviour.
That's not true. People get the wrong impression as soon as you mention the word alloy. Take a guess what Renthal motocross handlebars are made of ? I also think because it's been marketed as an accessory bar(without any included accessories) and not a crash bar that people get the wrong impression. I don't think any manufacturer would market something as a crash bar to be honest.the crash bars running around the side and across the front is made of alloy and is only for the spot lights so its not a crash bar.
The Honda accessories web site says that it is steel, and as marsbeetle mentions unlikely Honda will say its a crash bar as that would be just setting themselves up for trouble. It could be something like chrome moly steel which is stronger and therefore lighter because it can be thinner steel, but who knows what sort of steel it is?That's not true. People get the wrong impression as soon as you mention the word alloy. Take a guess what Renthal motocross handlebars are made of ? I also think because it's been marketed as an accessory bar(without any included accessories) and not a crash bar that people get the wrong impression. I don't think any manufacturer would market something as a crash bar to be honest.
Whether it will withstand impact remains to be seen. From what I can see though, it is well designed and looks to be a single piece which can only add to its strength. Other manufacturers seem to have opted for a two-piece design.
It is way overpriced unfortunately.
There was a picture on one of the other threads showing how easily it could be pushed back into the plastic. It seems pretty expensive for something that doesn't offer much 'crash' protection, so I've cancelled my order for the bar, and Ill look up aftermarket ones, as I expect there'll be lots on the market pretty soonThe Honda accessories web site says that it is steel, and as marsbeetle mentions unlikely Honda will say its a crash bar as that would be just setting themselves up for trouble. It could be something like chrome moly steel which is stronger and therefore lighter because it can be thinner steel, but who knows what sort of steel it is?