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I am an ex Cross Country / Enduro rider from the 90's and moved from dirt/ street to Track Riding. I have recycled back to Adventure Riding now with my New CRF1000 bike. I think I have every Touratech add on this company makes, except for suspension components on my CRF1000.

I took my 600 mile bike and mounted 60/40 Continental Tires and went to Colorado for another 600 miles of off road riding.

Now My friends came along on their Dual Sport bikes, one was my older but reliable XR650R bike I bought new in 2000. This bike is far from stock, Scotts Dampener, Pro Taper, Scotts Tripple Clamp, KYB custom fork with Adjustable Hi / Low speed compression dampening, and custom rear tuned shock. Honda HP engine kit, header pipe and exhaust, dual sport plated with a larger gas tank. I built this bike for the Mountains, in Cloudcroft NM riding single track trails.


When the AT CRF was written up in a Magazine, I said Finally a Honda that I would consider buying to replace my super reliable XR Big Red Pig.

I have many miles riding on my XR, 16 Years worth! All kinds of trails, roads, rocks, you name it. Except Motorcross!!


I get my CRF1000 and set sag, initial dampening after installing all my Touratech components, and 60/40 Tires. We setoff head to Colorado with my friends. Hi Speed small road roads, yeah 80-100 MPH speeds and fun to ride. Get into the technical stuff, Loose, 1-3 inch rocks, or rocks embedded in the trail, and now this bike is a different animal. Lots of feedback in the handle bars, rear shock packs down when climbing, massive eye blur over the rocks at moderate speed. No adjustments seem to help! I got arm pump like pop-eye the sailor. Front would not plant and turn, and rear tire would not track well in loose rocks. Ok, I found the bikes short comings!! Now In the moderate bumps, the suspension worked better. My friend on my old XR was laughing at me listening to me on our open mike headsets!

I switched off and road my old XR and rode the section back one handed and no eye blur! Wow what a difference a tuned suspension makes!

My search begins, The Touratech company recommended a guy in WA, I called and we spoke about the short comings of the internals of both the shock and forks. Now, where do we go from here? Cover up the short comings, with a re valving and matched weight springs? or fix the issue with replacement cartridges? Now Who?

Ohlins? Traxxion Dynamics? brand X? Touratech?

Nope no such luck, at least not yet. I love my bike, and dirt road riding is fine, but work the suspension on technical trails and I discovered the bike falls short compared to real desert race bike of a long time ago area! Hey I remember my XR before the suspension changes, it was just like this AT... so I know it can be fixed, or at least improved.

Yes, 500 lbs plus weight bike is larger than a nearly 300 lbs older XR. I get that, be suspension is suspension!

So I set out and started looking for improved suspension and not look at just the cost.

What I have found is an Ohlins makes rear shock, 1200-1300, Hyperpro 900-1000, Touratech 1795 ! wow, covers the rear!

What about the front? two places that will take what I have and improve it, 500 ish

or Send the forks to Traxxion Dynamics and they will fit a set of AK20's cartriges into the forks and tune them. 1000K bucks!.

I have used AK20s in my older GSXR, CBR1000RR, and my GL1800 Goldwing and loved them. But not in an off road bike.

So, I am listening? any body taken the plunge and upgraded their suspension and happy with it yet?

I am strongly considering a Touratech Extreme shock and Traction Dynamics new Cartriges, unless I can find a good alternate solution.

What a fun bike to ride, hopefully keep the Honda relaibility and just ride it.

I sold my 16 year old XR Honda this year for more than I paid for it new!
Not to many bikes you can say that about.

Todd, in Texas
 

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Howdy,

I am an ex Cross Country / Enduro rider from the 90's and moved from dirt/ street to Track Riding. I have recycled back to Adventure Riding now with my New CRF1000 bike. I think I have every Touratech add on this company makes, except for suspension components on my CRF1000.





I get my CRF1000 and set sag, initial dampening after installing all my Touratech components, and 60/40 Tires. We setoff head to Colorado with my friends. Hi Speed small road roads, yeah 80-100 MPH speeds and fun to ride. Get into the technical stuff, Loose, 1-3 inch rocks, or rocks embedded in the trail, and now this bike is a different animal. Lots of feedback in the handle bars, rear shock packs down when climbing, massive eye blur over the rocks at moderate speed. No adjustments seem to help! I got arm pump like pop-eye the sailor. Front would not plant and turn, and rear tire would not track well in loose rocks. Ok, I found the bikes short comings!! Now In the moderate bumps, the suspension worked better. My friend on my old XR was laughing at me listening to me on our open mike headsets!





So, I am listening? any body taken the plunge and upgraded their suspension and happy with it yet?

I am strongly considering a Touratech Extreme shock and Traction Dynamics new Cartriges, unless I can find a good alternate solution.

What a fun bike to ride, hopefully keep the Honda relaibility and just ride it.

I sold my 16 year old XR Honda this year for more than I paid for it new!
Not to many bikes you can say that about.

Todd, in Texas
Hi Todd, there is a lot of information on different forums about what people have tried. I know you are in Texas so I dont know any local suspension guys but the general consensus here in AU is that the stock hardware is all fairly good both front and back once you have the the correct spring rates and valving for your weight and riding style. You need to find somebody with a shock dino who understands how to use it. Most race specialists will have one. The changes seem to be relatively modest in both price and what needs doing. There is no magic formula at this stage as we are still looking at what changes have been made on various bikes and than what else needs improving. We have not seen an aftermarket configuration that has any better outcome than a modified stock front and back. Sorry its still a bit of a work in progress at this stage.
 

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Well after research and talking to suspension a few specialist, I turned to Touratech. They now offer a complete solution. Yes at a hi cost, but satisfaction is guaranteed. The other "guys" like BMW they have started this kind of adventure riding, they have had issues in extreme riding that Ohlins is not holding up. Their own stock suspension is not holding up and turned to Touratech. They seem to specialize in Adventure Bike Riding in extreme situations. One 24 month rider reports on the Touratech Suspension has held up without issues. Where the Stock and Ohlins had gave trouble. This guy did the Touratech Discovery Route in Colorado and has ridden all over the world.

Ok, Extreme is a matter of experience. I placed my order yesterday with Arron at Touratech, they have now replacement drop in cartridges that are really advanced, Not Even on their Website yet. They are a closed system, doesn't share the same fork oil as standard cartridges do. Benifets, less foaming of the oil, contamination into valving, use good oils from dampening, instead of a compromise oil to serve as lubricant and dampening with foaming resistance. You normally find this on hi end race bikes. It offers a complete solution as a drop in replacements without having to send your forks off to someone. Yes at 1795 for the front and 1795 for the rear it is extreme pricing. As a road track rider, suspension is key! To me its one of the greatest improvements that can be made to any bike. The Install is easy if you can remove the forks and have basic fundamentals of mechanical skills. Basic tools can do the job once you have the bike supported to remove the forks. Anyone that can not do that, I would look to a shop that can.

Since they off a complete solution, and I can keep my stock cartridges, and stock shock... if I where to need service they can be removed and I continue my ride. Or trade bikes and move suspension components over the next model. I have done that too moving one bike out and another one in.

If you where to visit Touratech-USA, they are heavy into adventure bikes. My bike looks like a Touratech bike. I have Upper/ Lower crash bars, Their Luggage System, Tank Bag, Rear Rack, Skid Plate, Rear Brake Res Protector, GPS Mount, iPhone Mount, Headlight Protector, Side Stand Foot Pad....

All I can say, well built stuff!! Totally Happy... Try their stuff out and if you don't like it, return it and get a refund... How can you argue with that!!

I parked my bike and some dip Sh-- backed into my bike and it fail over. I had SW Motech Hand Guards, "Touratech Desnt Make them" and broke the plastic cover. Cheap Plastic... 100 bucks to just replace the plastic!! I bought the Barkbuster Storm hand covers and they bolted right up in place. Barkbuster make SW-Motech guards! Buying those has been my worst regret. However, Touratech Saddle Bags are tuff! The protector strip got damaged and no problem, replaceable... 30.00 bucks! did not hurt the bag itself.

No I dod not work for Touratech, my dealer that sold me my bike made me good pricing on the stuff, and he and I have known each other for years. The suspension I bought directly... from Touratech, free shipping and no sales tax. Easier to deal directly with them if any issue where to occur.

My Honda guy, had already sold two sets of Honda bag to one costumer. that the bike fell over.
 
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