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I have set up my SAG but have not touched the Compression or Rebound damping front and rear. My ideal setting would be the one that gives the most comfortable ride. I am not really interested in the sharpest handling for fast cornering etc.
Has anyone any experience to share on adjustments they have made to the damping on the ATAS ?
 

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I have set up my SAG but have not touched the Compression or Rebound damping front and rear. My ideal setting would be the one that gives the most comfortable ride. I am not really interested in the sharpest handling for fast cornering etc.
Has anyone any experience to share on adjustments they have made to the damping on the ATAS ?
I have the same requirements as you Kev - comfort. I couldn't believe after all the time effort and money I spent trying to get my NC750X 'comfortable' that I have never had to touch the suspension on my AT. In fact it seems a bit of a waste of money having all these adjustments and not using them :grin2::grin2: IIRC you are a big guy aren't you? Did you have to adjust the sag. I never touched the front but regularly changed from 14 clicks to 27 clicks at the rear dependent on luggage or not.
I do think sometimes that since it would be a 2 minute job to change rebound adjustment at the front, why don't I do that when I stop for a coffee at (say) Todhill on the M6 before heading out cross country on the backroads. So I too am interested in how more experienced guys set their bikes up for comfort cruising and for back road handling
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I am six foot five and 16 stone in riding gear. My ATAS rear SAG with rider aboard before adjustment was 47%. That was 112 mm rear wheel travel out of an available 240 and 7 clicks in. They say that 33% ish is what to aim for, I achieved that with 29 clicks in. I probably have another 6 or so clicks left.

The long travel ATAS suspension is much better than my previous RT that had clever active suspension but I feel maybe the front end could perhaps absorb bumps a bit better than it does. I never ride off road. Honda have given us lots of compression and rebound damping adjustment at both ends and its odd that this forum dosnt have threads on peoples adjustment experience . I know that less damping will make the bike 'softer' at the risk of a bit of wallowing so I might have a day out with tools in pocket and try a few damping adjustments. I suspect damping adjustment is a different deal altogether compared to SAG adjustment which is a simple tape measure job. Maybe that's why we don't have much on the forum ?
 

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The sag is also objectively measurable whereas the rebound and compression are much more subjective and of course dependent on the type of riding we want to do.
However, I remember the suspension specialist just north of York explains to me how he was setting up the rear damping. Iirc he was trying to get the seat to return to its normal position after a hard press downwards in about 1 second. The problem with suspension specialists though is that nearly all of their work is done for racing bikes and when he set my Nc750 up it was far too hard for me.
I think I will make it a bit of a project over the next month. I need a table which gives me the preload comp and rebound settings front and back for 3 situations. Long distance motorway cruising, Yorkshire/Scotland B and C road ‘scratching’ and maybe the same when carrying 60 kilos of luggage.
Will report back
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Gentlemen: I don't really know what a stone is, but am am 6" with a 32" inseam. My ATAS has Head bars, Givi Pannier Racks, Tusk Panniers, driving and fog lights, and carries a Garmin 595, so it has a few extra pounds on board. I just mounted a set of new Anakee Adventures, and have not weighed the bike with the new tires, but with the OEM at 5,600 miles and about 20 pounds of tools, rain-gear, and misc plus a full tank it weighed 601 pounds. With my full riding gear on I am 225. Rear sag was 42% with all 35 clicks used. I just reinstalled the suspension parts with upgraded springs, etc. from Cogent Dynamics, and that is where I am at about 5 clicks. Would love to get to the ideal 30%-33%, but with the new tires on I have to sacrifice a bit of sag in the interest of at least having a full ball of the foot on the ground. Hope that helps in some way.
 

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Yeh that's helpful. On my ATAS when I screwed in my pre load to 29 clicks from 7 the bike did as expected and sagged less. Also leaned over more on the side stand. The chain slack also changed as the swingarm was now in a different position. I could also notice that the back end was higher when I was riding. Not Africa twin but may be of interest - My CRF250L Rally has the pre load set to max and the SAG is 58%. Its well known that the spring is way too soft for the likes of me at 102KG as the bikes designed for a 75KG rider. So I ride with a lot of SAG, tarmac only, but it feels comfortable !
 
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