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Well not a swop, the 250 is in addition. A new Grey one arrives next week. Should be an interesting contrast to the ATAS. Anyone else running both ?
 

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Funny, I went from a 250 Rally to a ATAS. Good little bike, and a nice addition to the AT, but if it’s your soul bike, then as I found, just a little too underpowered for general use.
 

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I don't find the CRF 250 Rally underpowered, It's quite good for a 250cc bike, I did 180 miles in the North Wales mountains yesterday loved every minute, well almost every minute my hands were like blocks of ice, Made a lead up today for my heated gloves and jacket ,
 

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I have a CRF250L and the AT. They are both great bikes. I use the 250L for commuting and tighter trails and the AT for long distance touring.
I don't think the 250L is underpowered - it is a 250 and still has 25hp, which is plenty to lug me around.
 

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If you're on Advrider, you provably heard of the mole CRF500L. It is home brew from a crf250L chassis and a cbr500 twin engine. Resulting in a silky smooth 48hp twin in a 165kg gross weight motor (already with a safari tank).
If Honda would make those I would not beed two bikes.
 

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I have the 250l which I bought January this year then the AT in July due to the amount of fun I was having on the 250l. My way of thinking was if the 250l is this much fun then 250 X 4 would multiply the smile on my face. The AT has not disappointed in any way trouble is not using the 250l as much.

The 250l I would not say is underpowered if you keep to single tracks and green lanes plenty fast enough. It does run out of puff on fast roads and dual carriage ways but as said it is a 250. The AT plenty fast enough on these roads and absolutely brilliant on single tracks and green lanes I have had a cracking summer.

I part ex-changed my KTM super duke for the AT this was due to the amount of average speed cameras, static speed cameras, mobile speed cameras, police hand held side of the road cameras and un-marked cars and bikes. Did my head in going for a ride then waiting all week for the letter to drop through the letter box.

Now with these two bikes the roads the scenery really enjoying my biking Yorkshire Dales and Lake District on my door step. Enough said.
 

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I have the 250l which I bought January this year then the AT in July due to the amount of fun I was having on the 250l. My way of thinking was if the 250l is this much fun then 250 X 4 would multiply the smile on my face. The AT has not disappointed in any way trouble is not using the 250l as much.

The 250l I would not say is underpowered if you keep to single tracks and green lanes plenty fast enough. It does run out of puff on fast roads and dual carriage ways but as said it is a 250. The AT plenty fast enough on these roads and absolutely brilliant on single tracks and green lanes I have had a cracking summer.

I part ex-changed my KTM super duke for the AT this was due to the amount of average speed cameras, static speed cameras, mobile speed cameras, police hand held side of the road cameras and un-marked cars and bikes. Did my head in going for a ride then waiting all week for the letter to drop through the letter box.

Now with these two bikes the roads the scenery really enjoying my biking Yorkshire Dales and Lake District on my door step. Enough said.

Effectively thats what I found, good bike for back roads and green lanes, but on open roads, dual carriageways and motorways, not so good, that’s where I felt it was underpowered for me. I couldn’t afford to have both bikes, so moved upto the ATAS.
 

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The CRF 250L and the Rally version are so cheap compared to the AT.
You can get a New Rally for under £5000, £42 road tax and I paid £64 (zero NCD) for insurance.
My ATAS was £273 (13 yrs NCD) for insurance but I got ripped off as the model was 'not recognised' by the insurers in March 18. Maint on the 250 is also cheap - do it myself.

Totally different bikes of course, but still Honda ! . A couple of years ago one of my bikes was a 250L. Great on the moors back roads and country lanes, but a pain on the main roads getting home due to limited power. Small fuel tank as well. From 2017 the 250s have a bit more power and a bigger tank so we shall see.
 

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I have a 2017 AT and a 2016 CRF250L and have had them both for two years. Each one accomplishes a different task. You need both to have the perfect bike. Will be keeping both. No thoughts of ever selling either one. Use them both regularly. Use the AT about three times as often as the CRF because I spend most of my riding in a touring mode with long stretches of well maintained gravel roads. On another note, I also own a 2013 CB1100 (pearl white) just because it’s stunningly beautiful. Now then all three make the perfect bike. At least that’s what I tell my wife when she asks why I need three bikes.
 

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I have a 2017 AT and a 2016 CRF250L and have had them both for two years. Each one accomplishes a different task. You need both to have the perfect bike. Will be keeping both. No thoughts of ever selling either one. Use them both regularly. Use the AT about three times as often as the CRF because I spend most of my riding in a touring mode with long stretches of well maintained gravel roads. On another note, I also own a 2013 CB1100 (pearl white) just because it’s stunningly beautiful. Now then all three make the perfect bike. At least that’s what I tell my wife when she asks why I need three bikes.
Just tell her it was three bikes or three women, standing well back helps.
 

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I have done a few miles now on the CRF 250Rally. It really shows how bad the low speed fuelling is on the ATAS. I thought I was happy to accept the ATAS low speed jerkiness but now that I have experienced super smooth fuelling at crawling speed it has reset my expectations.
 
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