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.... but not where I expected it.
I knew there were some orangey bits at the front base of the frame. Shoulda fitted a fenda extenda. Anyway I decided simply to clean these down and overpaint them with hammered black hammerite - which is a reasonable match for the sparkly graphite frame. Then I went round with an artist's brush doing all the seams of the welds where they looked a bit orange. I expected to find loads but was pleasantly surprised at how little I had to touch up considering I've done 23k miles much of it through a UK winter.
BUT - I then had a look up high with a torch under the front fairing where the radiators bolt on and it was bad. Lots of flaking paint and big areas of rust. I didn't expect this and since its under warranty I could have probably got a new frame. But hey what the heck. I just used a stipple brush and put plenty of hammerite on it. If the dealer knocks points off when I trade in, I will be annoyed.
Sorry no pics - just wanted to get on with it.
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The finish on these bikes is bloody disappointing I think, combined with the ongoing spokes debacle, (3rd set wheels going on my 2016 this week) the state of all the fittings mounting bolts etc is poor, I mean, these bikes are supposed to be “adventure”. Bikes......just don’t take them out in the cold and wet ?
Still makes me smile and looks great ...... from a distance !
 

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I've worn the paint off the frame with my boots. Doesn't rust if you keep riding :)
outrunning the rust. :laugh: that's a new idea.

I said a couple of years ago that Honda in the UK were pitching the bike price too high, and not where Honda intended it to be. All the launch material had it several thousand pounds BELOW the price of equivalent BMWs and KTMs - maybe Honda didn't even intend to be competing with those bikes. And if instead they were producing something that competed with the Tracer900 and Tiger 800 then they had to make economies somewhere. For the life of me though I cannot see how painting the frame properly, and doing likewise with all the little brackets and using stainless bolts and banjos, would add much to the cost. Of course Honda UK then confused the issue by pitching it at the same price level as a GS (or almost)
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I have 20k miles and I also have a lot of rust on my frame.... all up and down the front. I absolutely love my bike! It is quite reliable mechanically, but the fit and finish is absolutely disappointing.
 

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Is it salty environment? Most of you live near coastal places.

Knock on wood... but I haven't had any rust showing here. In spring, after the salted roads of our long winter season, I tend to wash the bike a lot to ensure that the road grime and salt mixture doesn't have time to corrode anything.

Two other bikes I have ridden to San Francisco to beachfront vacation properties (not mine, rented) and they have literally shown signs of rusting overnight from the briny air.
 

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Clean it with 3m pad, prime n paint touchup.normal preventative maintainence.
I am taking that view. However, it would be very difficult to do proper prep work without stripping off lots of bits of the bike. The supposed beauty of hammerite is that little prep is needed, and I sort of have the feeling that the resulting coating may be more flexible and chip resistant than primer and ordinary paint. If I was a more careful painter it could have looked much neater, but it's tucked out of the way so it will do.
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Firstly have to say I love the At, bought new in 2016 and covered about 16,000miles. However the bike finish is no where near as good on previous Honda's I have had.
Here is a list of things to date:
*ECU replaced - bike lost drive would not select gears.
*Set switch sticking
* Rusty spokes and wheels (two rears and one front)
* Centre stand -recall for faulty clip.
Above done under warranty.

Frame rust on front down section and left hand side around welds.
Corrosion and flaking paint on engine - this only on the silver section.

These were raised as warranty issue but no action from Honda. Dealer did touch up with paint sent to them by Honda - do looks to be common.

Looking to take up with Honda.

Bike definitely looks to be built down to a budget or Very poor quality control.
 

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280 miles on the clock and my 2018 ATAS has just gone back to have flaking paint repairs (frame) and re spray on the rear grab rails (rust on welds) engine castings are very rough which has been addressed with Honda but they don’t intend to rectify. The bike is beautiful but I am very disappointed with the finishing. Never seen any Honda this bad. I’m glad I’m not having to use as my daily ride as I would be fearful of nothing left after the winter salt.
 

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I have lots of rust spots on my ATAS after 2k miles of California riding. I'm very surprised at Honda having owned a number of them in the past with no such issues.
 

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I think - if I were considering purchasing a new bike now, id be less worried about if they had fixed this one issues... and more about the fact that, whatever issues you might find, they just don't want to stand by their product and sort it out for the current owner!

You purchase - you take on that risk
 

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I had to remove my petrol tank this week. the underside of the tank was rusty - bad!

In 25 years of riding bikes, I've never had this.

god knows what they are doing when they paint these bikes!
 

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.... but not where I expected it.
I knew there were some orangey bits at the front base of the frame. Shoulda fitted a fenda extenda. Anyway I decided simply to clean these down and overpaint them with hammered black hammerite - which is a reasonable match for the sparkly graphite frame. Then I went round with an artist's brush doing all the seams of the welds where they looked a bit orange. I expected to find loads but was pleasantly surprised at how little I had to touch up considering I've done 23k miles much of it through a UK winter.
BUT - I then had a look up high with a torch under the front fairing where the radiators bolt on and it was bad. Lots of flaking paint and big areas of rust. I didn't expect this and since its under warranty I could have probably got a new frame. But hey what the heck. I just used a stipple brush and put plenty of hammerite on it. If the dealer knocks points off when I trade in, I will be annoyed.
Sorry no pics - just wanted to get on with it.
Mike
I told someone I wanted to put fenda extenda's on mine and they thought I was nuts. I ride in the rain and whatever - and some of the stuff that splashes up really does a number on the finish. I changed my oil the other night and realized my cases are starting to discolor from stuff that is splashing onto them. I wiped some grime from around the filler cap and it didn't look much better. With a lot of scrubbing I made it hard to notice - but it got me interested in the fenda extenda's again. They won't help with the stain and patch of fur I found on the bottom of my skidplate. I think it belonged to a squirrel...
 

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I had a 17 AT and then traded it for a 18 ATAS. I think the basic bike is very pretty, however, the fit, finish, and build quality are terrible, especially for their flagship adventure bike. Add to that poor customer service and response. My frame welds are terrible. Will soon be inspecting my fuel tank and fuel pump for crud, and the forks for premature wear. I am very careful treating my rims and spokes. Honda, you really made it a difficult job to change the air cleaners. I admit that the engine and DCT have been pretty good. This bike is getting close to BMW GS pricing (I think BMW still offers a 3 year warranty rather than the one year from Honda).

It was not long ago when Honda Motorcycles were known for quality and value. I currently do not consider Honda Motorcycles to be built with quality and value, but rather built for a price. I will enjoy and take care of my ATAS, but do not plan on purchasing any more Honda motorcycles and automobiles.

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I told someone I wanted to put fenda extenda's on mine and they thought I was nuts. I ride in the rain and whatever - and some of the stuff that splashes up really does a number on the finish. I changed my oil the other night and realized my cases are starting to discolor from stuff that is splashing onto them. I wiped some grime from around the filler cap and it didn't look much better. With a lot of scrubbing I made it hard to notice - but it got me interested in the fenda extenda's again. They won't help with the stain and patch of fur I found on the bottom of my skidplate. I think it belonged to a squirrel...
The auction site lists a carbon fibre fenda extenda for the Africa Twin. It's made in Spain and is superb quality. I didn't have one fitted to my 17 bike but have fitted it to the 18 and it looks great and does the job. I use sikaflex 291 to fit them (it'a a marine sealant adhesive). I tried the adhesive pads that come with it but the extenda came loose in a UK winter (different bike), and that can be dangerous as it could get rammed up inside the mudguard at speed.
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