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I'm thinking of trying a kayak handle like this one. Will see what I can find at West Marine tomorrow.
Well that didn't work. I hooked the handle under the pillion peg bracket and tried to pull up, but I could feel that with my arm that far forward not enough weight was getting to my right foot. Using the pillion handgrip like before forced me to shift my weight back and onto the center stand footrest, which was required to get the leverage to get the stand up. With the panniers in place there might not be a better option.

I looked at the kayak handle... not sure about having that flop around.
:laugh: Ha yeah I didn't mean I would leave it attached. I don't use the center stand all that frequently. If the handle had worked I would have just added it to the "kit pouch" I keep in the starboard pannier. Adding some paranoid would be a good idea...
 

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Honda can make a dual-clutch transmission but not a decent center-stand apparently... my R100GS center stand had a foot shape that acted like a cam so you could easily build up some speed plus it gripped the ground better so it didn't slide.
 

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A good tip when convenient and safe is to roll the rear wheel on to a small plank of wood about one inch thick, this allows the centre stand to come down lower and the bike much easier to roll backwards.

Due to a replacement right hip I have very little strength there, I can now easily lift the AT and my much heavier Triumph Explorer.

It feels safe using this method as well.
 

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The only times I have had any difficulties in getting my DCT model onto the center stand, is when I have forgotten to release the hand brake. After a couple of tries of not being able to roll it backwards, it will hit me :)


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Almost anything can be found in youtubehttps://youtu.be/QZg4I3N5Bqc

This is how I do it and agree Honda could have made a more hand friendly grab point; strap idea sounded good.
Whilst washing the bike I cut my hand on the right peg bracket trying to clean the lower muffler; why manufacturers allow sharp edges anywhere baffles me.
 

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A good tip when convenient and safe is to roll the rear wheel on to a small plank of wood about one inch thick, this allows the centre stand to come down lower and the bike much easier to roll backwards.

Due to a replacement right hip I have very little strength there, I can now easily lift the AT and my much heavier Triumph Explorer.

It feels safe using this method as well.
This is exactly what i do. After 3 x holiday spoiling punctures i eventually bought an OEM centre stand on my return (sick of laying the bike down to fix)

Having always had to lower my bikes a little i already knew the problem would be to actually 'get the bike up and onto it' so i carry a piece of 4" x 1" wood around in the topbox. I place it on the floor in line with the rear wheel and roll the bike onto it then i find it much easier to lift it on to the main stand.

My bike is lowered by 25mm both ends using Hyperpro springs and this stops you getting the correct angle from the centre stand when it contacts the ground. I COULD however shorten the stand :nerd:
 

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Mine seems to get more and more difficult every time I do it. Not sure if she's getting heavier, or I'm getting weaker!? That guy in the video looks like a dam camera trick. When I do it I use the same amount of force as I have to when picking the bike up straight off the ground. Got me scratching my head lol.
 

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I find it's easier if I pull in the clutch lever or have the bike in neutral. This keeps you from fighting the rear wheel for that brief moment as you start to move the bike up and aft. Of course it's also important to keep the front wheel straight.
 

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I find the feet on the OEM stand cause more damage to the ground than any other bike I have ever had. Are they smaller or sharper than average. i will try the plank trick as i find the way it lurches back on to the stand a tad too dramatic.
 

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I just put the OEM center stand on my AT and found it easy enough to use. The trick is let your weight and momentum do the work by stepping on the lever with all of your weight and as the bike starts to rise give it a tug up and to the rear to add to the momentum. At 170lbs I'm plenty heavy for it to work. But I have a grab handle on my Kaw KLR650 that makes it even easier because it is perfectly positioned. The KLR has enough stuff on it to be near as heavy as the AT. I got the grab handle from Twisted Throttle (SW Motech) and I was wondering if anyone has made such a handle for the AT. I guess it wouldn't be hard to make one but before I go there I'd like to see if something is already available.

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-motech-centerstand-lifting-handle-for-kawasaki-klr650-08-16
 

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Mine seems to get more and more difficult every time I do it. Not sure if she's getting heavier, or I'm getting weaker!? That guy in the video looks like a dam camera trick. When I do it I use the same amount of force as I have to when picking the bike up straight off the ground. Got me scratching my head lol.
I have also felt at times like it requires more effort than before, sometimes I want to give up.
Today I used the passenger handle again and somehow it felt easier than grabbing down low, (like passenger foot peg). I can't explain but instead of lifting, more energy went to backward motion and it seemed easier.

Does anyone else think the stand is too tall? Couple guys mentioned using a block and I notice the tire is a full inch or more off the ground. Are the aftermarket stands also this way?
 

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I am only 5'7" and sometimes feel even older than what I am :)
I have SW-Motech panniers rack fitted.
I get the Hepco Becker centre stand feet sitting level on the floor.
Grab hold of the forward, lower section of the pannier rack.
Take up the slack, and lift on the rack while putting pressure onto the centre stand. Look straight forward and keep your back straight.
This works well when the bike is NOT loaded. Loaded, no chance of getting it on the centre stand. (Thats what mates are there for!)

I recently fitted TKC 80 on the front and Mitas E07 on the rear. This seemed to raise the bike quite a bit, making the stand issue easier.
3 Weeks ago a fitted the HyperPro front and rear springs. This raises the bike even more. Great? No, now the lean angle of the side stand is too much in certain situations. But I am happy to live with this 'problem'.
 

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Find the balance of the bike before u attempt to lift.straighten handlebars.find spot to grip comfortably with right then in one motion use your body weight to lift bike.my right foot travels in air for balance as I lift.im 5/10.5 and 12.5 stone.i hv no trouble lifting with full panniers and top box.Its all about confidence and technic.Just find a flat level area and practice
 

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Maybe this will help to someone. This is how im doing it. Right hand on passenger footpeg frame, right hip is pushing my hand backwards. I’m not trying to lift up my bike. This trick works when fully loaded with panniers and rollbag. Most important is that my back is straight so less possible I damage something. With panniers is even easier because I’m pushing with my lower back. Important is not to focus on lifting heavy bike up but push back. This can be done slow (static) move. Without “explosion” which can only increase the risk of injuries. I hope this help https://youtu.be/WH4aL92e7ik
 

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Added the OEM center stand and struggling with it. I expect the issue is worse with the Adv Sports model with the longer suspension. I carry the block of wood (which doubles for side stand footing on soft ground). No way I could get the loaded bike up without geometry tricks and I'm 6' and 180 lbs. I know the trick is to move back rather than up, but panniers hamper your grip.
 

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Added the OEM center stand and struggling with it. I expect the issue is worse with the Adv Sports model with the longer suspension. I carry the block of wood (which doubles for side stand footing on soft ground). No way I could get the loaded bike up without geometry tricks and I'm 6' and 180 lbs. I know the trick is to move back rather than up, but panniers hamper your grip.
Although I admittedly have never done it yet fully loaded out. But on my ATAS with the panniers on, I grab the frame AND use my hip/butt to push back on the pannier to lift and roll back the bike on the stand. So I’m standing next to the bike facing forward, lifting up and leaning/pushing back against the box.
But you are right, it is a PITA to do with the panniers on, with them off, the racks are a great place to grab to pull it up on the stand.
BTW I’m using the Hepco & Becker Center Stand.
 

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The higher your bike sits - proper springs for weight and with sag set correctly- the easier it is to get on centre stand.
A heavily loaded bike on stock rear spring with 7-clicks preload is tough to get on main stand.
Trick is to push down **** hard with right foot whilst lifting with right arm. Like doing a deadlift in the gym. Back straight use your leg.
 
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