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A mate of mine had the 48k km service done on a 2016 manual. It cost $1,100 AUD. It cost slightly less as he had a unifilter air filter so it just needed cleaning rather than replacement. The service was done by a Honda dealer in the suburbs of Sydney.
Ditto. My 32,000 miles service is scheduled for next week...including valve check. The estimate from my shop/dealer is 6.07 hours labor. Not including the lovely California state tax the estimate w/ anticipated parts is USD 1,066.84. Bam!
 

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I have never been 'trained' as a mechanic, and I've done all my valves personally. I rebuilt a tranny using a Haynes manual, no issues. I've rebuilt entire engines using the manuals, common sense and youtube.
It ain't rocket science, and frankly, I've found many mechanics to be far less knowledgeable than I am, and I just flat out don't trust them after several bad experiences.
You CAN do your own, it's fairly easy, and with modern tech there are many tutorials out there.
Ya wanna be an Adventure rider? Learn, do your own, and your confidence will be boosted as well as your pocketbook.
YOU care far more about your bike than anyone else, don't trust your adventure to some half assed bozo who only wants a paycheck.
 

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When new, and whilst under standard warranty, my bikes go to an appointed dealer, after which they go to the garage (shop) of 'me'. That way I know what's been done and save heaps of cash for other uses.

I'm with Rubicon Al on what he says. DIY. Get a workshop manual, if you need extra info, Google & You-tube are your friends, as are discussion forums such as this. It's not rocket science.
 

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The mechanic I go to is part of the group of riders I ride with and the same group go for beers on Friday nights from time to time. The mechanic I go to is someone I trust and is far more skilful mechanically than I will ever be.

I like my job and can pay for a trusted expert to work on my bike. While he has my bike, the mechanic also looks for any other issues, actual or coming in the future, meaning I am far safer having him look after my bike. Also, he would charge me less than a Honda dealership, so not $1,100.

It is great that you can work on your own bike and maybe you like doing it. Personally, I'd rather leave it to someone else that I trust and earn the money to pay him for it.
 

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Really wondering if someone had them checked/adjusted at the dealers and how much was the invoice...
A typical price here in AU is between $900 to $1100 AU for the full 24,000 service that includes Air filters $90, Honda oil and filter kit $75 change of radiator fluid and valve check and spark plug check.
They all have quoted 8 hours to do the work.

I did my 24,000km check and it took me 8 hours, the second time I did it was about 5.5 hours. There is nothing difficult about it, it just takes time to remove all the bits and then reinstall them all. I am doing a friends AT in the next week or so for the 56K Km check I think that will take us between that 5-6 hour mark possibly less with two of us doing it. There was only one exhaust valve that was out of spec (0.23 + or - 0.02mm )on no 1 it was 0.26 on my checks so far.
 

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So on the invoices from dealers, I'm curious. when they did the job is New Coolant charged?
New Spark Plugs charged? or do they just put back the old?
These are things that don't make sense. 100K coolant but needs to be drained to do valve check?
Check Plugs, but you're in there so might as well just change them out?

So just curious what people's dealer invoices actually read for this $1000+?
 

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About 1/2 way through my 2nd valve check at 36K miles, yeah, running a bit behind due to being on a trip.
This is a HUGE PITA undertaking IMHO but totally doable if you are careful and document what you are doing and have a copy of Hondas TERRIBLE shop manual.

If you don't have confidence in yourself as a mechanic don't even consider it.

The ATwin like most current bikes in designed with CAD and there isn't a spare inch of anything, ****, there is hardly AIR in between components.
Someone said their shop did the job in 4 hours. Sorry, but I believe they SAID they did it.. but did not really, you'd have to be a freaking wiz-bang mechanic with 8 octopus arms to do it that fast.
Takes me 3 days. I work until I cannot stand it any more, and when I start cursing in Japanese I knock off for the day.
Once the valves are exposed.... CHECKING them takes 15 minutes... Adjusting depends on whether or not the intakes are off; if so you must pull the camshaft and swap shims...

By the way.. anyone know what diameter shims this thing uses??? Can't seem to find a positive answer.

My '13 Triumph Trophy is as bad or worse. $1200 bucks plus for a 20K service... I do that myself as well, but curse in British...
 

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I normally work on all my bikes. I've been deep into motors with no issues other than some busted knuckles and cuss words. After reading this thread I am glad I opted for the 3 year maintenance plan when I bought it. Typically dealers make **** tons of money on these because people dont ride. I ride on avg 10k-15k miles per year. So I'll be well into the 30's by the time the service agreement runs out. Sounds like at 12k i'll be ahead in costs with $1000+ mentioned for the valve checks/adjustment, The 3 year plan was an additional $1500. It covers the bike for everything according to Honda's maintenance schedule.
 

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My bike has now turned over 16k miles and I don’t intend to get the valve check carried out until it’s winter hibernation period. At most, I’ll have another 1500/2000 more miles done by then and as other have reported, bikes are still in spec at up to 20k miles.
 

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I just don't get why Honda did this to people. An adventure bike needs to be serviceable. An air filter needs to be a 10 minute job.

As for valves I'm now 65 and run my bikes easy these days. Just touring/camping and easy cruising. No more hi-RPM stuff like when I was in my 20s.

I can easily run a bike to 80km (50,000 miles) and not worry about valve shim clearance. Last time I checked a set of valves at 30,000 miles the were still fine. So I no longer even think about them.

I was giving the AT a serious look but from all I have seen/read/heard, I may take it off the list. I think I will wait till I can see the Yamaha T700. I like the size, fit, more power then I need but I have got to have a bike that is easy to service.
 

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So on the invoices from dealers, I'm curious. when they did the job is New Coolant charged?
New Spark Plugs charged? or do they just put back the old?
These are things that don't make sense. 100K coolant but needs to be drained to do valve check?
Check Plugs, but you're in there so might as well just change them out?

So just curious what people's dealer invoices actually read for this $1000+?
The plugs get a check at 24,000km make sure the gap is not over 1mm (first valve check) replaced at the next one 48,000km (second valve check)
Coolant is NOT drained to do valve check. Coolant is changed at time, 3 years you don't need to do much other than undo one drain screw on side case then refill radiators for that, does not need to happen at valve check you can do that without disconnecting radiators. On the invoice there will typically be oil and filter $75(that's a kit in a box here in AU including the washers) , air filters $90 labour 8 hours and whatever else they may have done? So depending on what labour rate they quote that's a big chunk of the inv
 

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I had the valves checked at 17k miles. Just one of the exhaust valves needed adjustment all the others were within tolerances. While they were checking the valves I had them replace the air filters as well. My total cost including the air filters was $567. I was billed for 7.5 hrs labor.
 

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The plugs get a check at 24,000km make sure the gap is not over 1mm (first valve check) replaced at the next one 48,000km (second valve check)
Coolant is NOT drained to do valve check. Coolant is changed at time, 3 years you don't need to do much other than undo one drain screw on side case then refill radiators for that, does not need to happen at valve check you can do that without disconnecting radiators. On the invoice there will typically be oil and filter $75(that's a kit in a box here in AU including the washers) , air filters $90 labour 8 hours and whatever else they may have done? So depending on what labour rate they quote that's a big chunk of the inv
Thanks. other bikes I've had they have to remove the radiator...
 

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Hey XLGeorge did the 43 sprocket make much difference for off-road riding & much difference on your gas mileage ❓❓

It has made the 1st gear slightly shorter and this has helped in slow/difficult off road passages, it has also helped in steep uphill/downhill riding. But it has helped even more on tarmac as the 6th gear has become much more usable throughout the range. I think my gas mileage may have even increased because of this but it has certainly not worsened.
 
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