[Dado]

@mrnekk not trying to be insensitive but; Cut your losses, and move on with your life, it hurts but the bottom line is, you didn't suffer any other injuries except for your pride. It's not the first or last time you broke something, that's why we work hard and make money, and money can fix "anything"... don't stress your (and our) life over this little mishap.

Not sure how many dealers you have in your town, but the guys were nice enough to provide you with their Demo bike, s#hit happened, but nothing that cannot be fixed with little bit of € and a few parts.

You might need that dealer in the future to service your bike, so talk to them, and remember "it's not what you say, it's how you say it" I'm sure it must have happened to them once or twice already, and they must know how to deal with the situation, and to still keep you as their customer.

 

[HartmanFoscari]

Hello forum. Bad luck person of the year here. Here is my story.
Yesterday went to my dealer here in Athens, to test drive the Africa twin. They only had a dct model. 20minutes into the drive I turn right in a small road and the motor stalled. Weird. Anyway, I stop 10 meters down the road very close to the pavement to get phone out. Glove stuck to the throttle, before I know it bike accelerated, throwing me back and accelerated even more. On the spot the bike wheelies like a ballerina, and does a 180 and we both slam in the ground. The engine hit a pavement metallic pole and rips it off the cement. Right side of the engine leaks oil. I hit my back my legs and shoulder. I go get checked out to the hospital. I am probably ok. It's just going to get hurt for the next week.
Next part , the dealer:
The person there didn't know what to do and said this has never happen before. He told me to call accident care from their insurance and to go through all that and bring the bike back to the dealership with the truck the accident care sends. Since it is Saturday after 3 the dealership is closed and only the guard is there and no one else. On the phone he told me that whatever is broken on the bike I have to pay myself. All of it. My questions are. Isn't there a wheelie control on this thing? Why did such an extreme thing happened? What is the deal with the test drive bikes? So if something went even worse the bike got totalled, I would pay for the whole bike?

Which year was this? There is a known stalling problem that was supposed to be fixed with an update. I think with a lawyer you could get them to null the thing you signed as even if you are the one riding it if they hand you a dangerous item they are still liable. At least here in america. id talk to a lawyer tentatively as you may be able to go after them for your bills and **** and you not having to pay for repairs.

 

[mrnekk]

It's a 2022. But it is difficult to prove even if.

 

[Hood]

It's a 2022. But it is difficult to prove even if.

Can you get the VIN number? If you can then you could type it in to the Honda recall site for your country and it will tell you if it needs the ECU recall done.

 

[HartmanFoscari]

It's a 2022. But it is difficult to prove even if.

Can you get the VIN number? If you can then you could type it in to the Honda recall site for your country and it will tell you if it needs the ECU recall done.

and this may save you a good couple thousand buckaroos

 

[mrnekk]

UPDATE: Called today. Made an offer. Waiting for them to reach out to me with a counter offer. Mentioned the recall for the engine stalling and the ECU, that is active for that Vin and outstanding, but said that bike is ok all the works are done (even though the official Honda site says otherwise). I will let you know.

 

[ToSlow]

UPDATE: Called today. Made an offer. Waiting for them to reach out to me with a counter offer. Mentioned the recall for the engine stalling and the ECU, that is active for that Vin and outstanding, but said that bike is ok all the works are done (even though the official Honda site says otherwise). I will let you know.

Hold them to task and make them prove that the update was done, If it was me

 

[Hood]

If the update was done then it should have been logged and when you looked up the VIN on Hondas site it should have said no recalls active,.

 

[Art]

UPDATE: Mentioned the recall for the engine stalling and the ECU, that is active for that Vin and outstanding, but said that bike is ok all the works are done (even though the official Honda site says otherwise). I will let you know.

If the recall has been done it should be noted and stamped in the service book.

 

[HartmanFoscari]

UPDATE: Called today. Made an offer. Waiting for them to reach out to me with a counter offer. Mentioned the recall for the engine stalling and the ECU, that is active for that Vin and outstanding, but said that bike is ok all the works are done (even though the official Honda site says otherwise). I will let you know.

Like others have said, hold them to task. If the official site was not updated with it not being outstanding they didnt do it. Even if they claim they did. Make sure you take a picture of it being outstanding with a dated picture. so even if they do it later they cannot say diddly.

 

[mrnekk]

The thing is I told him that the bike stalled, and the response was: says you, the back is fine. How would we know it stalled...

 

[ToSlow]

The thing is I told him that the bike stalled, and the response was: says you, the back is fine. How would we know it stalled...

Because the update has not been done. And if it’s a concern with Honda to order an update then they should be good with you telling them that

 

[Cuchulainn]

Was the bike new or used? I don't know about outside the US, but in the US a dealership can not sell a vehicle with an open recall and I imagine by extension can not allow you to test drive a vehicle with an open recall either. You would have to check your local laws, but they may be in violation for allowing you to even take it out with an open recall, regardless of whether or not it stalled.

 

[mrnekk]

Was the bike new or used? I don't know about outside the US, but in the US a dealership can not sell a vehicle with an open recall and I imagine by extension can not allow you to test drive a vehicle with an open recall either. You would have to check your local laws, but they may be in violation for allowing you to even take it out with an open recall, regardless of whether or not it stalled.

Used with 9k kms on the clock. The test ride bike.

 

[Cuchulainn]

Used with 9k kms on the clock. The test ride bike.

Unfortunately used bikes/cars can be sold with an open recall in the US. Not sure about Greece. It may be worth looking into.

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[Dado]

The thing is I told him that the bike stalled, and the response was: says you, the back is fine. How would we know it stalled...

🍿🍿🍿🥤🥤🥤aha, a new twist...getting better then Netflix....mrnekk you're making them dance a little

 

[Little Bill Daggett]

FFS GO TO A SOLICITOR!!

Doh.....

 

[HartmanFoscari]

Unfortunately used bikes/cars can be sold with an open recall in the US. Not sure about Greece. It may be worth looking into.

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still tho, regardless if they did let you ride a bike or car for that matter with say issues they have not resolved and you get hurt due to that then they owe you recompense. A free bike in this case would be perfectly adequate imho

 

[Art]

First off glad you walked away from this but I'm not sure I fully understand what has happened here or how it could be anything other than rider error which would also mean rider liability.

The engine stalls but its able to be restarted, most would put that down to rider error so why not continue with the test ride?
How does a glove become stuck to the throttle?
Sitting astride a motorcycle hand on throttle, in gear and with the engine running and attempting to operate a mobile phone, isn't that an accident waiting to happen, oh it did!


Here in the UK sitting astride a motorcycle with the engine running and holding or attempting to hold a mobile phone is a serious Traffic Offence punishable with a £200 Fixed Penalty Notice and 6 points on your Driving Licence. In addition to that if it is within 2 years of passing your driving test you will be banned from driving for up to 6 months and your driving licence will be cancelled which means that after the driving ban you will need to reapply for a Provisional Licence and retake the driving test.

 

[PlanB]

First off glad you walked away from this but I'm not sure I fully understand what has happened here or how it could be anything other than rider error which would also mean rider liability.

The engine stalls but its able to be restarted, most would put that down to rider error so why not continue with the test ride?
How does a glove become stuck to the throttle?
Sitting astride a motorcycle hand on throttle, in gear and with the engine running and attempting to operate a mobile phone, isn't that an accident waiting to happen, oh it did!


Here in the UK sitting astride a motorcycle with the engine running and holding or attempting to hold a mobile phone is a serious Traffic Offence punishable with a £200 Fixed Penalty Notice and 6 points on your Driving Licence. In addition to that if it is within 2 years of passing your driving test you will be banned from driving for up to 6 months and your driving licence will be cancelled which means that after the driving ban you will need to reapply for a Provisional Licence and retake the driving test.

I can’t piece together how the crash happened either; however, when I picked up my 2022 DCT in late August the sales person told me that there are lots of dealer tales about new first time DCT buyers crashing their new motos before they even get off the lot. The standard F-up is, of course, blipping the throttle while in gear. My sales guy had me pull off of the lot in D mode just to be on the safe side. Additionally he recommended getting used to the DCT by running the bike with all the electronic interventions set to max : wheelie control, throttle, traction control. I didn’t test ride my twin - first time I rode one it was mine. You learn quickly that you need a hyper-deliberate throttle hand especially when stopped.

I hope the OP is able to find a reasonable solution.