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I am just about to purchase a dct model can I ask has anybody purchased one and really wished they had gone the manual way��
 

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I am just about to purchase a dct model can I ask has anybody purchased one and really wished they had gone the manual way��
Quite the opposite. I originally purchased a 2016 DCT version and had the chance for a "do over" and choose a manual if I wanted when I decided to trade it on a 2019 Adventure Sports model. But I was happy with the DCT model and stuck with that over the manual.

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I have a dct . I really like it. Now imstead of feathering the clutch i learnt to use the rear brake. The only thing i am missing is the capability of cutting the power off the rear wheel. I love the quick shift of manual...even at mid corner it is not a problem,,,,
 

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Personal choice. Just do some research on each , and their problems, then make your decision. My decision was less computer stuff, less to go wrong. So you know which one I picked ;-)

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I have to agree with MrRobb that it is a PERSONAL CHOICE. My DCT has been in the shop about a month and a half, with a bill now approaching $2000 dollars. So, MrRobb is correct in saying that it does cost more to drive the DCT. The shop has ordered a new brain for my DCT with a retail cost of about $1200, with no return as it is an electric item. So, I have gambled that this will work, but I still do not have a bike. You can get a lot of helpful advise on this form.

However, I have been riding since 1958 and have owned a bike everyday since 1958... Call me not so bright, but I really do like the DCT so much better than the manual. At my age dropping a bike in the dirt can be a all night adventure. The DCT does do such a great job at keeping me in the proper gear at all times.... I am an adventure rider, and a few of the places I go do not have paved roads.......

Either Africa Twin you decide on will be a great riding bike. However, get the bike that does fit you. I have a short inseam. So there is no way I can ride the Sport version. Other than that, you can not go wrong with either standard or DCT ...
 

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As said DCT discussions are personally subjective. A DCT owner here and I love it for the 98% of use I put it too. For tight full lock on gnarly or difficult terrain where you might want to foot dab or balance with a leg out its tricky . Ie if your not possessing stunt rider skills using the rear footbrake to moderate slow speed/clutches can be (v)tricky in that scenario. its all fixable but shame Honda didn't offer a Lh bar rear brake kit accessory to do it (unlike the relatively useless -again subjective DCT foot gearshift accessory) .
 

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As said DCT discussions are personally subjective. A DCT owner here and I love it for the 98% of use I put it too. For tight full lock on gnarly or difficult terrain where you might want to foot dab or balance with a leg out its tricky . Ie if your not possessing stunt rider skills using the rear footbrake to moderate slow speed/clutches can be (v)tricky in that scenario. its all fixable but shame Honda didn't offer a Lh bar rear brake kit accessory to do it (unlike the relatively useless -again subjective DCT foot gearshift accessory) .
Could probably fit a mastercylinder and lever on the left hand bar for that sort of control. Somebody a bit smarter than me would be able to work out the correct bore size required to get the right ratio for good feel at the lever.
The back brake is just as wooden on a manual when using the foot pedal.
 

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I've had manual bikes since i started riding in 1980.

If the DCT variant of the Africa Twin did not exist then its highly unlikely i would have bought a Honda.
 

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As a rider in my 50s I appreciate my dct as there is two less things to focus on. I do miss the clutch at times, but definitely won't go back. Can now enjoy other things like figuring out how to answer calls while riding. LOL
 

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I reached for the clutch and my foot went for the shifter today on a tight corner when I realized the bike had already shifted into the gear I needed. Another "Da" moment with the DCT. After riding the bike enough you learn to use the shift buttons to fine tune the DCT actions.

My son gives me a hard time for having an "automatic" but I just laugh and pull away in a flash.
 

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As said DCT discussions are personally subjective. A DCT owner here and I love it for the 98% of use I put it too. For tight full lock on gnarly or difficult terrain where you might want to foot dab or
balance with a leg out its tricky . Ie if your not possessing stunt rider skills using the rear footbrake to moderate slow speed/clutches can be (v)tricky in that scenario. its all fixable but shame Honda didn't offer a Lh bar rear brake kit accessory to do it (unlike the relatively useless -again subjective DCT foot gearshift accessory) .
Could probably fit a mastercylinder and lever on the left hand bar for that sort of control. Somebody a bit smarter than me would be able to work out the correct bore size required to get the right ratio for good feel at the lever.
The back brake is just as wooden on a manual when using the foot pedal.
Put a rear brake system and lever on the left hand bar of muy 2019 AT DCT, just like an scooter, and relocated the park brake to the right side GIVI crash bar. Everything works great!!
 

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Perfection is when there is nothing more to take away, not when there is nothing more to add!

A long career in the UK motor industry taught me a lot about automated manual transmissions, both single and double clutch variants. When the technology worked there is nothing to touch them, when they go wrong however the water is always deeper than with the manual transmission. The Germans used to advocate that DCT' transmissions never drank too much or had a row with their wives or girlfriends or both. The only downside was the transmission couldn't see up the road. A read through the DCT section of the shop manual gives some perspective.

I went manual but I miss the benefits of the fantastic DCT, the only possible benefit being the simplicity of fixing the manual bike further down the road.

Don't listen to an old sod like me, follow your heart and get what you want!
 

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Perfection is when there is nothing more to take away, not when there is nothing more to add!



A long career in the UK motor industry taught me a lot about automated manual transmissions, both single and double clutch variants. When the technology worked there is nothing to touch them, when they go wrong however the water is always deeper than with the manual transmission. The Germans used to advocate that DCT' transmissions never drank too much or had a row with their wives or girlfriends or both. The only downside was the transmission couldn't see up the road. A read through the DCT section of the shop manual gives some perspective.



I went manual but I miss the benefits of the fantastic DCT, the only possible benefit being the simplicity of fixing the manual bike further down the road.



Don't listen to an old sod like me, follow your heart and get what you want!
With age comes wisdom. I went manual also. More computers = more expensive problems later.

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I have trued goldwing with dct. The big cross runner 1200 too. Now I have choose the Africa twin dct. Since three weeks. Its fantastic. I love it. And believe my gently driving enjoying every little your, will do that I will never get trouble with my dct.
I have five years warranty here in Denmark ??. So I will make all service at Honda.
Buy one❤
 

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I have seen a list of the riding modes, traction control, etc on the DCT. Can someone tell me what the manual transmission has. I am assuming it has various level of traction control and the switchable ABS for the rear wheel.

Trying to decide if the DCT is for me, mostly worried about being stranded in the desert 100 miles away from civilization.
 

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I have seen a list of the riding modes, traction control, etc on the DCT. Can someone tell me what the manual transmission has. I am assuming it has various level of traction control and the switchable ABS for the rear wheel.



Trying to decide if the DCT is for me, mostly worried about being stranded in the desert 100 miles away from civilization.
That could happen with any bike. Probably the only guaranteed way to not get stranded in the desert 100 miles away from civilization is to not travel 100 miles away from civilization. I am not sure DCT significantly sways the odds :)

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I have a 2017 DCT and have put 7,000 km on it in. I also have three other bikes that I ride regularly and they are all manuals.

Even after two years of riding the DCT I’m still not certain if I would buy it again. Some days I absolutely love it, and other days I wish it had a manual clutch. I’s all about the slow speed maneuvering, low speed smoothness, and being able to disconnect the power train at any time for any reason. In my opinion, the DCT would be the perfect bike if Honda had also left a manual clutch on it as well, in addition to the DCT. I think the Honda DCT designers forgot that a clutch lever on a motorcycle is not just for shifting gears. My little opinion.

I think you really have to own a DCT and ride it for a few years to start forming your own opinion. I am happy I bought it as I truly enjoy it. Some days I prefer my manual clutch bikes and some days I prefer the DCT. If they had left a supplementary clutch lever on the left handle of the DCT you would have the best of both worlds.

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That could happen with any bike. Probably the only guaranteed way to not get stranded in the desert 100 miles away from civilization is to not travel 100 miles away from civilization. I am not sure DCT significantly sways the odds :)

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I understand that, But I am not going to stop riding where I wish. With my current bike, I am very confident I will be able fix what is needed to get back to civilization. I realize most bikes have lots of electronics now, just not sure I like the idea.

So, does the manual just have traction control and ABS, or is there something else I am missing?
 
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