[mike5100]

Hmmm - That's not how I interpreted the info I read about the changes to smoothing out slow/initial manoeuvres on the 22, but interesting how you experienced the same surging issue in the new bike. I suppose on that basis it is going to be a topic of discussion for a while......as more units get sold and real world testing begins?

Yes Lupolee I had high expectations of the 2022 demonstrator and was hugely disappointed. As you will see from another thread I have just started I have been obsessing about this surging/hesitation for many years and assumed that Honda had recognised it and solved it. Bear in mind that's all I was interested in so I didn't pay much attention to the smoother gearchanges other than to notice them. TBH I think that the technical team were trying to address only the smoother gearchange (because that alone would help slow speed maneovering) , and as usual the marketing department wrote some BS.
Mike