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Pretty sure I read there where no changes from 2021 to 2022 other than paint scheme’s

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That's the 2022 vs 2023. Thank goodness as the SW bars been sitting in my garage since June.
Big changes to 2022 model from prior.

 

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That's the 2022 vs 2023. Thank goodness as the SW bars been sitting in my garage since June.
Big changes to 2022 model from prior.

I would say that article is wrong, they are saying big updates in 2022 and then say the engine went from 998cc to 1086cc but that is not true as it was 2020 (actually late 2019) that the increase happened.
There has been no real mechanical differences between 2020 to current 2023. Some software improvements (DCT), different colours, change to shorter screen on ATAS and rear rack now comes with AT as standard happened in 2022 models.
 

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As I pointed out earlier that article is confusing the 2016-2019 CRF1000 with the 2020 onwards CRF1100.
So the changes they are saying happened in 2022 actually happened in 2020 (really late 2019)
 

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Yes!!!!. Mine came from Miami, in the crate. They bend the lower part of the crate with the fork end, and a crossmember raised on the meddle, touching the skid plate during transport.
The Skid plate got it first scratch even witout 1 centimeter ridden. :mad:

I was able to sand paper and polish the scratch, to be lees visible.
Curious if they gave you any discount, etc. for the damage?

Mine was delayed again... now expected Delivery date of March 20 (I ordered it in June, 2022). Apparently still a 2022 model (standard model in DCT, red).

I wonder if Honda is just prioritizing larger dealers over the small ones like mine....
 

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Curious if they gave you any discount, etc. for the damage?

Mine was delayed again... now expected Delivery date of March 20 (I ordered it in June, 2022). Apparently still a 2022 model (standard model in DCT, red).

I wonder if Honda is just prioritizing larger dealers over the small ones like mine....
My order is in with a smaller dealer, too. But I'm not sure any dealer in the US is getting anything. I'm thinking that the bikes are assembled and are waiting on missing parts or Honda is sandbagging and will change the orders to 2023s when they're announced in the US.
 

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My order is in with a smaller dealer, too. But I'm not sure any dealer in the US is getting anything. I'm thinking that the bikes are assembled and are waiting on missing parts or Honda is sandbagging and will change the orders to 2023s when they're announced in the US.
Unsure... I'm in Thailand the last few months and I may go talk to a dealer here out of curiosity....lol. but I'll be back to 🇺🇸 in a few weeks.
I thought supply chain issues were fixed. My guess is Honda may be prioritizing bikes with higher margins.....

If they move to 2023 I want to change colors but dealer seems in the dark...seems little communication from Honda..
 

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Curious if they gave you any discount, etc. for the damage?

Mine was delayed again... now expected Delivery date of March 20 (I ordered it in June, 2022). Apparently still a 2022 model (standard model in DCT, red).

I wonder if Honda is just prioritizing larger dealers over the small ones like mine....
Doing a nationwide search on Cycletrader, with a few exceptions, the Africa Twin has significantly fewer numbers than the rest of Honda's line-up. Lots of new 2023 GoldWings (545); 2022 ATs (97). Groms, Rebels, Furys, and CBRs all outnumber the ATs. Of course, these are just the ones on CT.
 

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It looks like there's some 2023s in Canada and the standard's colors are basically the same and the new ATAS is grey and black. I really want the 2022 colors.
My dealership is getting a bunch of new bikes (even ones that they already have a four of) but no AT. :(
 

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Doing a nationwide search on Cycletrader, with a few exceptions, the Africa Twin has significantly fewer numbers than the rest of Honda's line-up. Lots of new 2023 GoldWings (545); 2022 ATs (97). Groms, Rebels, Furys, and CBRs all outnumber the ATs. Of course, these are just the ones on CT.
I wonder how updated and true these ads are. I saw a few mention "arriving November and also January ". Ha.
 

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Curious if they gave you any discount, etc. for the damage?
None. As it was already paid in full, and being a couple thousand miles apart, it was no way to claim.
But as wrote before, it was a minimal scratch.
Now the bike have larger and bigger battle scars. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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I wrote to Honda.. reply below (and I replied back to them about the lack of tranparency and asked again why they cannot estimate delivery as mine was delayed 6+ times since June, 2022, and also asked about 2023 model releases). Sounds like some BS.... Amazon seems to be able to track my packages to my door to the minute :) We/they have the technology to know when a bike will be completed and whom it will go to....
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Thank you for contacting American Honda Powersports Customer Relations. We apologize for the delay in receiving your 2022 Africa Twin DCT.

Unfortunately, we’ve faced an uphill battle with the pandemic and the way it caused shortages and supply-chain disruptions which were significant and widespread. We are working to rectify this situation, but it does take time.

Powersport Customer Relations does not have access to the dealership’s inventory. We recommend you stay in contact with the dealership for further assistance as they will have the most updated information on unit’s ETA.

Sincerely,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Powersports Customer Relations
 
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