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Will you get a new 2020 when available?

  • No

    Votes: 78 63.9%
  • Yes as soon as I can.

    Votes: 22 18.0%
  • When I pay my current AT off.

    Votes: 7 5.7%
  • Undecided a bit to much $$$$

    Votes: 15 12.3%

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Well I’m glad I got my 2018 ATAS early this spring and still love this bike, I was thinking of waiting and see if the rumors were true about the 1100 in 2020. But then my brain overcame my impulse. I’m not a “first year’ ANYTHING, I avoid first model years on everything I buy, inevitably, I believe, that the “first years” are the problem years. Now that’s not to say later years will not have problems, but, in pretty much all complex items these are the years with the most issues. I will add at this point MAJOR KUDOS to Honda for listening to the public’s thoughts and responding to them, job well done there Honda. I understand it’s a tough balancing act to get a product trike a motorcycle out, you pretty much have a limited time window for ALL the complex issues that need to be done and do it in a timely manner before your competition dose and put out a good solid product or you won’t be in business for long. But in the real world there are always issues and things happen, like the gas tank lining issue, the spoke issue, just things that or of course unwanted by Honda and the public but they do get addressed it only makes good business sense to do so, hence usually the later model years usually have less issues, will it be perfect, no, there are still a LOT of complex things that all have to work right for the whole thing to work right. But for the most part manufacturers have refined there parts/product and killed the gremlins.
Finally my point on the title of this post, tho I avoid the first model years I’m also an impulse buyer and the 2020 ATAS DCT has a LOT of new things that most definitely would of MADE me buy it, then when the first gremlin appeared regretted getting a first model year and kicking myself in my arse for knowing better and doing so anyway. Am I getting one. H E L L yea! But I’ll wait a couple years or so for the gremlins to be eradicated. As my saying goes “If you can’t be happy with what you have, you can’t be happy with what you want to have”. So I’m in bliss with my current ATAS and I’m sure eventually will be totally happy with my new ATAS in the future...
 

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Hmm should of added a “I’ll wait and see” to my poles answers...
 

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I voted no. When it's time for my next bike, I'll be buying something that still retains some kind of keep it simple stupid ethos. From reading and posting in other threads and forums, I think I'm in the minority here. But these new bikes, while fancy and impressive, they're not representing the direction I'm going. They make the t7 much more attractive to me. I'm still curious about the rumored AT 850. My '17 is about as technically advanced as I desire to go.

At least there's always going to be a used market 😉

Like cell phones, there's always the pull for the sparkly new model. Living in this cycle leaves a person constantly throwing money away for the next big thing. So a guy sells his highly farkled, low mileage '18 at a huge loss (there's going to be a massive number of used AT's hitting the already bad market, who knows how low the price will go) he buys the 2020, farkles it..... Then do it again a few years from now when the next big thing comes?

I'm not financially able to play that game.
 

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I just bought (6 weeks ago) my ATAS at a great price. I considered waiting for the new model which was already well rumored. I came off of a 2017 BMW GSA which I found to be more road oriented than off-road. BTW, I ride 50/50. I tolerate roads to get to the dirt.

When I considered what I wanted the 2019 ATAS fit the bill (except the height). Now that the 2020s are out, I don't regret my decision. I wouldn't have bought the top of the line 2020 ATAS as it is too close to a BMW with all the gadgetry. And frankly if I was going to be primarily touring riding, 80% road, I'd have kept the BMW. IMO, it is an excellent bike if you spend most of your time onroad.

If I was going to buy a 2020 AT, I would have probably bought the new "Enduro". Which is basically what I have now. So for me there is no need to buy a new model year. Yeah, it has a bit more hp and torque, but on the dirt, the current model has all I need. I'm going to have my current wheels made more durable and tubeless at Woody's Wheel Works. The Enduro still has the tube rims...

I do like the new TFT display with Apple Car play. That is very cool. I imagine it really opens the choices for GPS apps.

And I don't know who all those people are that were clamoring for cruise control. I've got CC on my other bikes and don't use it, not even on my Touring Harley...

Lastly I wish they would have gone after the smaller bike market like the KTM 790 which is more dirt capable. If they built that, I'd sell my 2019 and buy a 2020...
 

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Amphib, I too am in the minority. My 17 DCT is as fancy as I want to go. Yes, all those gadget and extras would be nice, but not £8k nice (estimate of price to change)
 

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I'm completely satisfied with '18 ATAS DCT. Price with Farkles was approved by Finance Committee. Under 1000CC has a bearing on Ins. Cost. Love the Paint HRC. Being retired sure figures into the financial side. Exceptions to usual rule of waiting on first year bikes
that I'm aware of are KO 750 Honda's. (1969) RE-5 Rotary (1975). I'll kick tires for sure but, unless another ship docks. I'm one happy camper :)
 

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i added a McCruise control and made my 2018 tubeless. All I'm missing is the fancy dashboard. I've got about $12k USD tied up in it. I have Heed crash bars and a Seat Concepts seat. Not much else I plan to add to this bike. I'm ok with not having a 2020.
You only need to add a "serious" rear shock and you'll be ok for some years! That's what I'll probably do with mine MY2018 Standard AT.
 

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I think I'm in the minority here. But these new bikes, while fancy and impressive, they're not representing the direction I'm going. They make the t7 much more attractive to me. I'm still curious about the rumored AT 850. My '17 is about as technically advanced as I desire to go.
You're not alone there, I'm of the same mind, even my '17 AT has too much going on for me. I can certainly see the allure of all this gadgetry and know there are a lot of people that really like it but its not for me. Like you said, the T7 has the perfect amount of tech for me :smile2:
 

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I purchased my 2019 ATAS barely 10 days ago, on the exact same day that Honda announced the announcement day for the new model. Of course I was hoping I wouldn't get buyers remorse but I was also aware that I got a pretty good deal on my used ATAS (part due to the rumors). The way I see it this new bike is quite different from the bike I currently own and tailors to a different crowd. I also see a few negative points already:

- Higher price. One of the selling points for the <2019 ATAS was how much bike you get for your dollar.
- The new Double Dash looks off. Couldn't they have incorporated speed and gear on the nav screen?
- The cruisecontrol switches should be on the left switchgear, so as to avoid jerking the throttle while trying to activate this function.
- Speaking of switchgear, I count fourteen (14!) different buttons on the left switchgear alone! That's probably clumsy to operate.
- The standard Africa Twin still has Tube Type tires.
- Personally I prefer the looks of the "old" bike.

That being said, as of yesterday I'm on the market for a set of 2020 ATAS wheels hehe!
 

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There is only one reason that would make me seriously consider trading up. and that is the 16,000 mile service. If the bikes designers have made a significant enough change to the bike that means this service is a lot less expensive in 'time' then that might be enough reason. Im not an early adopter of any bike, Im no guinea pig. I see a lot of positives for the new 'Sports. They have fixed the original bikes biggest issue for a great many owners, they have given buyers the option of going tubeless if they want to. Thats great.

However I remain very pleased with my own bike. And.. looking forward, There would have to be a big end of year discount next year that will mean I can swap without a great increase in my payments.

Im going to wait and see.. but right now, my answer is a firm NO.
 

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I think the 2017 white/blue/red or red/black/white are the best looking variants. The only options I wish my 2017 had were the supposedly less likely to corrode spokes and cruise control. But I don't use cruise that often and I can change the spokes out if needed.

If I were in the market for an off-road oriented bike I'd buy a new 2018 and with the money saved throw on a set of panniers and possible a Touratech shock and be ready for the world. That is the bike would be ready but not necessarily the rider.

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I voted no as I'm very happy with my 2016 Tri-colour manual. Was happy when I bought it with 4000 miles on it and since making many mods to improve what I thought was an already decent bike I really can't think of a reason I'd like to change it for something with many more upgrades than I'd know what to do with.
1100 miles without a glitch in my first year as owner has me trusting the bike to take me there and back without considering what may arise with a new model.
 

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- The cruisecontrol switches should be on the left switchgear, so as to avoid jerking the throttle while trying to activate this function.
- Speaking of switchgear, I count fourteen (14!) different buttons on the left switchgear alone! That's probably clumsy to operate.

I think that's something Honda really could improve on. The horn above the indicator on my 2019 takes a lot of getting used to after years and hundreds of thousands of km riding bikes of just about every other brand that have them the other way around. I'm still struggling a bit with it at times, I can only imagine with the new controller...finding the horn button will be like playing whack a mole. Also agree with Cruise control button needing to be on the left.

Had I not bought a 2019, I would have certainly considered it, but I'll be more than happy to keep my bike a couple years :)
 

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Hmm a lot more “no’s” then I expected. But I do see the point, spending lots of $$ to make a great bike even better and not wanting to just jump on the next new thing. But for me that’s also half the fun ( ok and a few curse words when upgrades don’t go as planned ) modding, upgrading, farkels. Yea I get the “eye roll” and the “head shaking no” also the “more crap for your bike” from my ol’lady, but that’s is far as it goes with her, she knows I enjoy doing that stuff and I’m happy doing it, so at the end of the day she has no issues with me throwing money at my hobby. As for all the tech. BRING IT ON!!!! I’m a certifiable techno geek, ****, even both my door knobs are digital. So I absolutely L O V E that stuff, the more gadgets, switches and electronics the better and I gotta say that 2020 ATAS has got me drooling. But in the end it is just a “want” not a need. Eventually tho it will get the better of me and I will get one and star all over again. But new things are fun
 

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For some people this will be a great great bike and they should upgrade. I go on really long arduous day trips on rough roads once a week and the current iteration is close to perfect for me.


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So, I'd like to hear from the "2" as of this posting that said "As soon as I can"....
I’m one of them, LOL, I should have put a couple more choices in my pole, all I really could say was that...
I’m not getting one right away but I most definitely will eventually get one.. So my “soon” is in the distant future...
 

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Call your insurance agent first and get an estimate. Crossing the 1000 cc threshold may put it in a different rating category.


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No thanks. Cruise control would be nice - but I already have a throttle lock. I like my dash well enough thank you. I could care less about the extra CC's, though I'm glad the weight went down a pound. I wonder about the gas mileage? I do like the cornering lights. I bought my ATAS in April, and the rumors of a larger engine were pretty load - along with talk of cruise control. Because of that I got my ATAS for $11,500. I sold my CRF250L, and traded in an FZ-09 and a KLX140L to where it was an even 3 for 1 trade - even though the CRF and FZ were both 6 years old. At $17,000 (and $1,000 less trade in) I'd of had to pay over $7,000. I owe nothing on my ATAS - and I like that. With $7,000 difference I can afford to take several trips instead. Offer me one for my ATAS and $2,000 and I would at least consider it - but not for anything more than that.
 
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