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Thanks for all of the responses guys.
After the responses from this thread, I started to wonder about my 2014 CB1100. It also came with a "tool kit", which included just a screwdriver and a fuse puller. From what I found online it seems like the same case; North American models came with only those 2 items whereas the international kit came with additional spanners and a spark plug wrench.

In addition, I was watching a video of someone doing a walkaround of their 2019 monkey (probably going to be my next bike) and it was the same deal with the tools for that bike.

This seems really odd that Honda would do this just for North America, does anyone know if other makes of bikes come with more extensive tools in the United States? I wonder if it is a regulation thing?
 

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Because we don't know how to work on anything so there's no point? Once a bike stops running, we just throw them in the barn and forget about them. Seriously, if you need to do very much to it, you need more tools than ever came in a factory set, so they save the money to include them.
 

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Just imagine then.

You get a puncture front and back. What's the minimum list of tools you need to get the wheels off, fixed, and back on again?
Not that I'd know how to do the job myself but if I carry a spare set of tubes and I have all the tools necessary, I can always rely on my
big brown appealing eyes... or more likely a credit card to get back on the road.
 

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I've heard that the best toolset is a credit card with a couple of hundred-dollar bills wrapped around it.

The front wheel axle nut is 22mm and the clamps are 12mm. The calipers are 14mm. The rear wheel has a 26mm axle nut. You can buy tire levers with the proper wrench sizes on one end, but they're short for tire levers, so I got long levers and bought cheap combination wrenches for the axle nuts. I cut off the open end so I could slide a pipe over it if I needed to. I haven't needed to. Three tire levers make it much easier, especially on the rear.
You need some sort of a mallet to drive the front axle out enough to stick a screwdriver shank through it to draw it completely out. A long punch might be handy, but I haven't worried about it. A valve core remover is required. I carry a 6-0z plastic squeeze bottle of Windex to clean my visor, and it works for tire lube as well. I bought a very small backpacking tarp to use as a workspace to pry the tire off, just to keep crap out of the bearings, and to make it easy to look for parts I'd removed.
 

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The rear wheel needs 27 and 22 mm sockets.:surprise:
 

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Just picked up a new 2018 ATAS in Queens, NY.
It had the small black pouch with a screwdriver, fuse puller. Lol.
Sales said that's all you get from Honda.

Any suggestions on a kit or list of useful tools to have?
Mostly riding on pavement.
I see there is a small side compartment so I know I at least need that allen wrench...
 

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I didn't get a tool kit either, but I always build my own
I carry spoons and axle nut combos for front and rear, a 21" tube, patch kit, valve core remover/fishing device, talc in a garbage bag (for powdering the tube), small 12 volt tire pump, a trail jack, a neat little pocket kit combo ratchet tool with sockets, and combo wrenches in 10/12, 13/14/ 15/17 mm, a dual screwdriver and a spark plug wrench, as well as needle nose pliers and extra hardware in various sizes and lengths.
In a pinch, the 21" tube will work on the rear.
Bear in mind, I'm a Dual Sport/Adventure rider, and am often up in the high passes of the Rockies, so I can't rely on a Credit card.
I also carry a small LED headlight, patching a tire by moonlight sucks! :)
I'm still working out where to put my Tool Tube (welding rod holder) on this bike.
 

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Getting ready for a 2500mi trip to the Alps in a couple of weeks so I thought I'd better get my toolkit sorted. Personally I would rather stash as much of it on the bike as possible leaving my luggage free from tools. With a bit of creativity it's surprising how much you can fit in. Managed to cram a bit set inside the tiny toolbox where the honda kit lives. Under the front (ATAS) seat on the battery box I've got a spare front tube and multitool, smaller spanners in bubble wrap down the side of the subframe. Under the rear seat there's space for smaller 1/4 sockets, puncture repair, inflator cartridges. In the bodywork seat cubby that the ATAS has, I've got spare clutch & brake levers, a T-handle bit driver with 1/4 drive, spare cartridge inflator head and a couple other bits. The only items I couldn't find space for are rear tube, tyre levers and the 22 & 27mm spanners. I would rather have everything on the bike all the time ideally, it's a shame I can't find anywhere for the tyre levers & spanners.
 

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Getting ready for a 2500mi trip to the Alps in a couple of weeks so I thought I'd better get my toolkit sorted. Personally I would rather stash as much of it on the bike as possible leaving my luggage free from tools. With a bit of creativity it's surprising how much you can fit in. Managed to cram a bit set inside the tiny toolbox where the honda kit lives. Under the front (ATAS) seat on the battery box I've got a spare front tube and multitool, smaller spanners in bubble wrap down the side of the subframe. Under the rear seat there's space for smaller 1/4 sockets, puncture repair, inflator cartridges. In the bodywork seat cubby that the ATAS has, I've got spare clutch & brake levers, a T-handle bit driver with 1/4 drive, spare cartridge inflator head and a couple other bits. The only items I couldn't find space for are rear tube, tyre levers and the 22 & 27mm spanners. I would rather have everything on the bike all the time ideally, it's a shame I can't find anywhere for the tyre levers & spanners.
Would be great if you could show photos of your tool stashing!
 

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I'd position and protect the tube a bit better. Subject to vibration chafing from sharps and seat latch where you have it.
Yes it fits there but may have a few holes in it when you need it.
Surprising the amount of vibration wear on hard parts stored under the seat and in my pelican case on the rear rack.
 

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I'd position and protect the tube a bit better. Subject to vibration chafing from sharps and seat latch where you have it.
Yes it fits there but may have a few holes in it when you need it.
Surprising the amount of vibration wear on hard parts stored under the seat and in my pelican case on the rear rack.
I wasn't quite done when I took that pic. I also fit a puncture repair kit by the side of it and some bubble-wrapped tools on top of it which leave it no room to rattle.
 

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Under the pillion seat you can put a small 12V compressor, which means unlimited compressed air, instead of the limited quantity you have there.
To use a compressor you only have to install a fused (15A) 12v socket connected directly to the battery.
 

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Under the pillion seat you can put a small 12V compressor, which means unlimited compressed air, instead of the limited quantity you have there.
To use a compressor you only have to install a fused (15A) 12v socket connected directly to the battery.
I have a compressor but it's too large to fit under the seat. Any chance of a photo of yours if you have this already set up?
 

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The compressor I'm using is a "Suaoki Mini compressor" bought on Amazon (www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07DCN7GVJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
It's a pretty tight fit but if you remove the foam from inside the bag of the compressor, you can manage put it in. I've also replaced the hex screws of the pillion seat with screws which can be removed by hand, so the compressor can be accessed without using tools.
 

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Under the pillion seat you can put a small 12V compressor, which means unlimited compressed air, instead of the limited quantity you have there.
To use a compressor you only have to install a fused (15A) 12v socket connected directly to the battery.
While your under the seat - put a small cable tie around the seat latch cable to ensure the jacket is never dislodged. You are not getting the seat off without tools, time and patience once the cable pops out of the clip.
 

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Anybody in north america (or who didn't get the full tool kit) able to find a spark plug tool that works for the AT? I am putting my tool kit together and that's the missing piece I can't seem to source this side. The OEM plug socket looks pretty specific with the thin wall and length to fit. Where did folks find it online? or are there 3rd party alternatives that work??
 

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Anybody in north america (or who didn't get the full tool kit) able to find a spark plug tool that works for the AT? I am putting my tool kit together and that's the missing piece I can't seem to source this side. The OEM plug socket looks pretty specific with the thin wall and length to fit. Where did folks find it online? or are there 3rd party alternatives that work??
I store a 1/4" deep well socket inside the battery box cover wrapped in a rag for the spark plug. Found a really cool compact tool kit that hits the majority of my needs which I store in a locakable Givi tool box which I mounted to the inside of my left rear pannier rack. The kit is called a Motohansa Pro Compact Tool Kit. Here's a link. http://www.beemershop.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MTT000039

I made two minor changes to it. One) I added in a magnetic reach tool and slotted it right beside the pressure gauge. Then I replaced the knife/multitool (since I pack a leather men) for a small pair of vice grips. Rolls up nice and tight.
 

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This thread made me check my toolkit in my 2018 ATAS I bought last month.


I have a screwdriver - in a pouch... That is just so sad - like why even bother?
 
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