Honda Africa Twin Forum banner

First AT tumble - Don’t know where I went wrong ???

2433 Views 31 Replies 17 Participants Last post by  This Big Road Trip
AT -1000 DCT
Plant Road surface Asphalt Automotive tire People in nature
in gravel mode and up to that moment had been proceeding gracefully along a typically gravel/sand strewn lane when I entered a mud patch.. Next thing I’m in the offside hedge and subsequently picking myself and bike up out of the gutter..
Stock tyres .. I have attached a couple of photos of the lane and tyre tracks are quite visible.. Any advice as to where I went wrong… and in particular what is the best mode for this kind of road condition … Don’t be too unkind .. my groin is still giving me serious discomfort 🥴

Attachments

See less See more
2
  • Sad
  • Wow
  • Like
Reactions: 5
21 - 32 of 32 Posts
Been there, done that, a few times.
When these heavy bikes start to go down in the slick, they seem to speed up and slam you to the ground. I wish I knew the secret myself. Go slow, you spin, go fast you wreck, drag your feet, pull a muscle trying to hold it up.
Very soon after I got mine while it was bare with street tires. It slipped out from under me in the wet grass and the fan made a 2" crack in the front side fairing. It happened so quick and knocked the wind out of me. Later, with that all fixed and added crash bars and much better tires. I still put it down in very similar conditions, leaves over slimy mud. In a flash, on the ground and mildy injured with a light sprain and knot on the back of my head. Bike and bars just ate it up with no damage that time. I have dropped it a few times along the way also, one she starts to lay over its hard to stop.
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
See less See more
  • Like
Reactions: 4
... leaves over slimy mud. In a flash, on the ground and mildy injured with a light sprain and knot on the back of my head ...
Can totally relate.
  • Like
Reactions: 1
Thanks to all for your comments and helpful advice.. It has been really refreshing to hear the experience of others … 👍
  • Like
Reactions: 5
When these heavy bikes start to go down in the slick, they seem to speed up and slam you to the ground. I wish I knew the secret myself.
They seem to gain about 25 pounds per 1 degree of lean angle, leaving your brain with about 0.4 seconds to make a fight-or-flight decision.
  • Wow
Reactions: 1
It happened so quick and knocked the wind out of me.
THIS THIS THIS. Sorry I see a lot of posts where people say "I will just ride more conservatively." or "I will take my time in bad conditions." DOES NOT MATTER. It will happen. You will suddenly be laying in a heap wondering "What the hell just happened?" I was going 5 mph when I tore my ACL in two. Don't ever think that if you just ride carefully you will avoid injury. ALWAYS have a back up and extraction plan. Especially if you are solo.
  • Like
  • Helpful
Reactions: 3
THIS THIS THIS. Sorry I see a lot of posts where people say "I will just ride more conservatively." or "I will take my time in bad conditions." DOES NOT MATTER. It will happen. You will suddenly be laying in a heap wondering "What the hell just happened?" I was going 5 mph when I tore my ACL in two. Don't ever think that if you just ride carefully you will avoid injury. ALWAYS have a back up and extraction plan. Especially if you are solo.
Same, my tires filled with mud and the bike came sideways onto my right leg turning the bottom of my tibia and fibula into dust. I was in cell service and was able to have help on the way shortly after.
Always have a plan to get help at all points of your ride.
THIS THIS THIS. Sorry I see a lot of posts where people say "I will just ride more conservatively." or "I will take my time in bad conditions." DOES NOT MATTER. It will happen. You will suddenly be laying in a heap wondering "What the hell just happened?" I was going 5 mph when I tore my ACL in two. Don't ever think that if you just ride carefully you will avoid injury. ALWAYS have a back up and extraction plan. Especially if you are solo.
Yes.

Although, the riding buddy behind me almost ran over my neck when I was down and while he was struggling with the same road conditions. o_O

I am happy today to be writing this note to Forum folks. :)
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: 3
Thanks to all for your comments and helpful advice.. It has been really refreshing to hear the experience of others … 👍
I remain constantly aware that my battleship '18 base could twist me around it's finger (if it had one) ... and remain constantly vigilant to be on good terms with the gal :LOL: These are tremendously large, powerful machines
  • Like
Reactions: 2
Funnily enough, I listened to this recently.

Had some good tips. One key takeaway is that when a 550lb bike is past the point of no return, don't attempt to stop it.
  • Like
Reactions: 2
Funnily enough, I listened to this recently.

Had some good tips. One key takeaway is that when a 550lb bike is past the point of no return, don't attempt to stop it.
Easier said than done. The natural reaction is to throw your leg out and brace. I have heard they teach you to fall with the bike at adventure riding schools.
Easier said than done. The natural reaction is to throw your leg out and brace. I have heard they teach you to fall with the bike at adventure riding schools.
A coworker did that with a 350 Honda on the street. He wasn't sure if he would ever walk without a cane much less get back in the saddle. He was lucky. Discussing training with an officer from the OPP, he commented the police force had to rewrite their training manual when they tried switching to a different make of bike. Training for the riders instructed the officers to try sit on the bike if they had to lay it down while under way. That was fine with the Harleys. Then they tried the police version of the Kawasaki 1000. The riders were instructed to get as clear of the bike as possible if it went down. It was found the Kawasaki would only slide a short distance before it started tumbling. At that point the last place the rider wanted to be was on top of the bike. The manual has probably been rewritten again since they switched back to Harley.
See less See more
  • Like
Reactions: 2
Easier said than done. The natural reaction is to throw your leg out and brace. I have heard they teach you to fall with the bike at adventure riding schools.
Maybe a good idea. If it is low speed I tend to wait until it's a bit lower and try to step away. When it's slipped out I've gone down faster than I can think so no skills there. I think the 'brace' reaction is the issue and where the damage might get done. Even my XR250 can get a bit weighty at a certain angle but putting 550lb of AT through one leg is definitely not a good idea.

Of course, it's harder / easier to bail on your bike depending on available crash protection and existing scuffs! :)
  • Like
Reactions: 3
21 - 32 of 32 Posts
Top