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Last year I've done a 7000km trip on a CBR500R with a combination of hard and soft luggage.
I found it really annoying having to take off the mosko moto bag (that doesn't lock) every time I stopped for coffee or to eat and the motorcycle wasn't in my line of sight.

I also couldn't leave it on the bike and go explore the city I was in because I was afraid someone would just take off with it (I doubt the "cable lock" for bags like these are much of a deterrent)

What solutions do you guys have? Are the OEM honda cases any good? I like the fact that they lock and they're not made of metal, so it helps keeping the weight down.
 

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Hey everyone,

Last year I've done a 7000km trip on a CBR500R with a combination of hard and soft luggage.
I found it really annoying having to take off the mosko moto bag (that doesn't lock) every time I stopped for coffee or to eat and the motorcycle wasn't in my line of sight.

I also couldn't leave it on the bike and go explore the city I was in because I was afraid someone would just take off with it (I doubt the "cable lock" for bags like these are much of a deterrent)

What solutions do you guys have? Are the OEM honda cases any good? I like the fact that they lock and they're not made of metal, so it helps keeping the weight down.

The OEM luggage are ok; simply ok, though. I have them but I would NOT recommend them for off road. Their quality is very lower compared to the Givi's. Also, their capacity is limited.

For this reason, while I kept them for solo touring, I have also installed SW-Motech racks with Givi monokey kit and I use the GIVI e-41s for two-up touring.
 

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I prefer soft bags. I have Nelson Rigg se-3050s on a Motech rack. Waterproof, spacious, and under 200 dollars. The biggest advantage is you can overstuff them or leave them open and have tall objects loaded from the top. Also, soft bags protect the bike frame in falls, have a lower chance of breaking your legs in an off, and don't shake your beer or soda at highway speeds (in my top box beers explode when I get home, but in my bags they're fine).

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As you stated Mr. Mihaiv both styles of bags are excellent, just depends on ones wants & needs. I have used both, right now I’m using givi soft bags, which are best for me for off road camping.
 

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I have a 48 liter givi top box as well. It works as quick commute friendly lockable storage as well as enough softbag space for 96 beers. I have the best of both worlds and it works as a back rest for my wife. I do not like hard side bags since they do not change shape to allow for odd sized items. Also, if I load ice into my see 3050 I have a cooler for about 12 hours.

I don't know if you can tell, but I'm pretty smitten with the **** things. I keep all my rain gear, visors, lobster claws, and bike tools on the exhaust side and leave the left side free for whatever and the top box for my work bag and lunch.

I sing this setup's praises at every opportunity.

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I used to have hard bags on my bikes in the past. The convenience of locking everything up. On my more recent bikes I've used Mosko Moto bags and Lone Rider Motobags. I like both of them better than hard luggage. Slightly lighter, more functional for accessories, and if I go offroad and have a wipeout they won't break.

Knock on wood - haven't had anything stolen on my bike in 300,000 kilometres of riding. I just leave my gear on the bike if I'm going for a short hike/walk or for photos. If I'm going to spend the day exploring I try to park the bike and leave my luggage behind.

The nice thing about the Lone Rider Motobags is that they are fixed to the rack and have a locking mechanism on the top of the bag.

I suppose you could also add a cable lock for things that you would like to shackle down - although a smart thief is likely to be able to deal with that.
 

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I went with a GIVI 52 trekker top case for around town and it stores an amazing amount of stuff. It is set upon an AltRider rear rack fitted with the GIVI attachment kit. This combination works very well for both commuting and when it comes to camping I have a very sturdy and flexible rack for my Nelson Rigg hurricane soft bag to tie to. I have a used set of touratech pannier racks and Mosko 35L soft bags for the camping set up. I am not a fan of hard cases off road for the simple reason of being trapped or broken out on trail. My 2017 twin is shrouded in the AltRider crash bars and with the mosko bags filled the bike lands on its side and leaves me room to escape .
 

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For me, it comes down to security and durability. I have soft bags and if I have to leave the bike I take my valuables with me. In the event of even a small crash, soft bags stand up better. I'm lucky to live in a fairly safe place so I couldn't justify paying up for hard cases, but if I was travelling the world I would get hard cases that lock.
 

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I have Bumot panniers & rack, I also have a plate for each rack that I can attach so that I can use my Wolfman Drybags instead.

Bumot Pannier Soft Bag Bracket: https://www.bumotaustralia.com.au/pannier-soft-bag-bracket.html
Wolfman bags: https://wolfmanluggage.com/products/expedition-dry-saddle-bags

For a long trip camping overnight for a few weeks I prefer the hard cases for the capacity and security. I have a 36L & 40L Bumot hard case and a Givi 58L top box as well as a roll-top duffel to strap to the rear seat, during my holidays this year I was away for 23 nights and was camping each night.

For a day trip with off-road riding it would make sense to take off the top-box and put the Wolfman Dry Bags on, as I wouldn't need all that much storage capacity and less weight would be good.
 

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The other option for soft bag security is to use a Pacsafe system when you leave the bike. I've used them in the past in sketchy area and they work great
 

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I use soft bags on the sides and a trekker outback 58 on top. Why? Because I still drop it in the dirt once in a while.
 

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I have hard and soft luggage (Globe Scout panniers with Givi Topcase and Nelson Rigg soft luggage). In 95% of the cases I personally prefer the hard cases. Yes when you ride offroad and you crash or when you put your feet down while riding in the sand soft luggage is safer for sure (so keep your feet on the pegs). Anything else I prefer the hard cases.
 

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I have the Honda Bags. They look good and are fine for touring. I would not buy again. Had my bike on the center stand in the yard while washing the bike, the ground softened and the bike fell over. The right bag is now loose and moves around. Parts are not available for repair.
 

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I have Mosko Moto bags on my G650GS. I have the OEM hard panniers and top box on my AT. Both have good features. I have to say that the Mosko bags are much more of a hassle to get into and then button up...and there is no way to secure them either. But I do like them a lot. I also like the OEM panniers on the AT. I can fit a full face helmet into the OEM (not exhaust side), but cannot fit one into the Mosko 25L Scout gear I have. I foresee a bit more benign touring and off road riding on the AT, and more aggressive stuff on the GS, so I like having the Mosko bags on the GS.
 

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I have the OEM Top Box which I like very well. I originally had the OEM Panniers and quickly destroyed them. I replaced them with Tusk Panniers and am very pleased with their durability and versatility. Their mounts can also hold soft bags if you would want. Regards
 

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I have the Honda factory panniers and they are a waste of money Completely unreasonable $1,100.00 Cdn
They will crumble with any type of crash and they are probably going to completely fall off the bike in this type of incident
They open to the side and not the top as most panniers do If you donot pack with an inside bag then as soon as you open the panniers stuff falls out of you and therefore you end up only packing them half full -
There is No parts available should some part break ie a door hinge Yes Buy a whole new set Yes not one but both need to be ordered as a set
Come on Honda - Really its 2019

I am headed for Mosko Moto panniers this fall

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I have both, last trip through Scotland basically all road I used the OEM panniers, they are still waterproof after 3 years and 30'000km. The motorcycle dropped once
against a wall and the right pannier stopped the fall, it's just scratched so I think people need to be realistic, on very low speed drops or standing still drops these can
still survive, but anyway even the bigger aluminum panniers will get ****** with higher speed drops, not even talking about the sub frame warping risk.


Last year in Spain I used the Reckless 80 because I went in the desert, so I expected to maybe drop the AT, this bag is awesome and basically I packed all clothes
and replaceable non vital stuff on both side waterproof bags, having my whole camera gear and bag in the saddle beaver part.
So if thieves would get in my bags they would not find anything interesting and leave, because I would carry my camera backpack every time I left the bike behind,
it's just a matter of regrouping all valuables in one backpack, for me it's not an issue.
I also have a movement alarm triggered disc lock, so might as well scare a thief because it's pretty sensitive, I would lock the AT anytime I'm leaving it behind.


Also can't recommand the Reckless frame enough, you can carry so much stuff of different shapes and sizes in it, I for examples can have beers in the saddle beaver
lots of them and get wood or coal for campfire barbecue in the side carriers, at home I go to the pet shop and put my cat's huge litter bags on each sides, this thing is
really great and still other tough MOLE straps to attach anyting top and sides.
 

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I love Pelican cases and use one as a top case when camping. I also thought about using them as side cases but I really don't like side opening cases. I think they could open up a whole new market for themselves if they made top opening motorcycle cases. They must be aware of how often their cases are used on bikes so its surprising they don't get into this area.
 
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