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Just to let you all know if you decide to change the heated grips for Oxford ones they will have to buy the standard grip assembly throttle order number 53140MKKD01 as they won't fit as its ride by wire and the standard honda grips are moulded to it
 

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I have Kiess heated gloves, they work better than heated grips. But I fitted heated grips anyway, it's not always cold enough to need heated gloves.
 

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Hi I used Gerrbing heated gloves with my previous bike a ktm 990, they were really good. I had the OEM heated grips fitted as part of my 2018 AT package and to be honest I cant fault them, great bit of kit
 

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I have a 2018 ATAS and my heated grips are fine in cool weather in the morning (10-15C) , they definitely generate some heat but I've only tried them with light gloves on. I don't live in a very cold place.

I do think the heat is significantly less than BMW grips (My only other heated grip experience). I'd give them 5/10 for performance but 7 or 8 out of 10 overall for being a very clean OEM installation as opposed to aftermarket grips.

If I expected to ride in really cold weather I would invest in proper heated gloves before stripping off an OEM setup and adding an aftermarket setup. It might even be cheaper. The ATAS has the charging port installed too.
 

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Koso Apollo LH Grip Position

I have had the Koso Apollo grips installed for 19k miles on my 2017 AT DCT. See my notes above "Turbo Koso Apollo".

This is my left hand grip setup, the colored LED is easily visible while riding:


My left thumb is very busy! I count twelve different buttons/switches.
I do not find that in this position the KA switch interferes with either the down shift paddle or the turn switch.
 

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I have had the Koso Apollo grips installed for 19k miles on my 2017 AT DCT. See my notes above "Turbo Koso Apollo".

This is my left hand grip setup, the colored LED is easily visible while riding:


My left thumb is very busy! I count twelve different buttons/switches.
I do not find that in this position the KA switch interferes with either the down shift paddle or the turn switch.
I will take a closer look at mine, but I think yours is pretty much in exactly the same position as mine. And there are two problems. The first is that if I have thick winter gloves on I sometimes fail to push the indicator button to the right (you have to get your thumb into that gap between the housing and the little lever). The second problem is that in order to get my thumb hovering over the down paddle I have to rotate my wrist downwards into an unnatural position. I have realised that this is because the Koso heated switch housing is thicker/longer than the Honda OEM item. This means my left hand is maybe half an inch further away from the controls than it was when I had the OEM's fitted and indeed on my previous NC750X DCTs
I have one idea how to solve the first problem and intend to build a little extension to the indicator button, but I can't see any way of solving the second, and now am trying to get used to riding with the rotated wrist when doing lively riding.
Mike
 

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Actually Ghorgan I have found a pic of the OEM heated grips which sort of undermines my theory above. The Koso housing doesn't really seem to be much thicker/longer than the OEM one, but the way the OEM one is shaped gives much better access to the indicator lever for pushing it to the right.
Can't work out from the pics why it's easier to hit the downpaddle.
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Are people with 2018 bikes finding there has been a significant improvement in the OEM heated grips then?

I stayed away from them after all the stories of how terrible they were for the 2016/2017 models - but I do need some.

An OEM install would obviosuly be preferable (dash lights etc) but I don't want to waste the money if they are still useless.
 

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That was my plan - but the OEM install is a lower profile and looks a lot cleaner. Would be really good to have the dash light integration too. I'm just hoping they are better this year.....
 

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My impression is they have fixed the various issues that were causing them to fail (error messages), but most owners still don't think they give out enough heat. But the Kosos don't either - that's what I have got.
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Just installed the Oxford heated premium touring grips on my 2017 Manual AT. GREAT grips and VERY warm. They actually get toooooo hot on 100% but you can always dial it back to lower percentages.
I just took a knife and quickly removed my OEM grips. Took about 30 seconds each. The left grip was a little loose but glue fixes that. The throttle tube needed to have a bit of old glue filed off to make fitment easier. Do this BEFORE applying and sticking on the grip! My first attempt was too tight and I only got it 3/4th on. At that point the glue was quickly setting up and I was in panic mode trying to get it off. Make sure the inside injecting moulding seam inside the heated grip has been trimmed clean or it makes it even tighter.
 

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Koso Apllo heat not enough - just boost the power to your grips with a 12v to 18v step up transformer. See my report "Turbo Koso Apollo"
 

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I suppose the real question is has anyone had the 2018 OEM heated grips installed and NOT felt the need to change them?
 

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I was able to reuse some Oxford grips I had from a prior bike w/ 7/8” handle bars (VStrom) on my 2017. When it’s really cold out (like right about now) running the grips at level 2 (of 4) and Warm’nSafe heated gloves (and jacket liner) let’s me ride at any temperature until the roads get icy. Highly recommend having both heated grips and gloves if you live up north.
 

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I have the OEM heated grips on my 2018 AT and have absolutely no complaints. Love the integration with the dash and the evenness of the heat between the grips. (I always experienced a hot spot on the right grip of my airhead BMWs.)
 
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