I haven't taken the tail of an AT apart, but I will welcome you to the Forum @rruss: Welcome!

Feel free to introduce yourself at the New Member Introductions area of the Forum.

 

Fixin to start the same install.
This is a parts removal that is in the rear....might help.

 

I know this is going to sound crazy but I gave up on fitting a top box on my ATAS 1000. If I need a box top - I take another bike. No idea why Honda changed the rack to make it so difficult to just fit a standard givi plate. I previously had a standard AT 2017 & was a 15 min job to fit the plate

 

Any luck on getting those 2 side plastics off yet...??
Same sticking point...!!!
On a 2019 Standard AT DCT.

 

I did it to fit my tail tidy, it’s not that hard, but it’s time consuming.

 

You can see the pictures of my strip down in the thread here.

Tail tidy installation

 

You can see the pictures of my strip down in the thread here.

Tail tidy installation

Thanks for the reference. Unfortunately, the tail section is different on the 2018/2019 model.

I haven't been able to get back to this project yet, but hope to soon. I will update here.

Thanks.

 

I put the givi racks on my bike, part number????

The painted plastics dont need to come off. Only the luggage rack and tail light assembly so you can shorten the blinkers. The rack is on floating nutplates that like to drop down so beware the (nuts) might not be there when you need them.
Pic to see if they are the same

 

I put the givi racks on my bike, part number????

The painted plastics dont need to come off. Only the luggage rack and tail light assembly so you can shorten the blinkers. The rack is on floating nutplates that like to drop down so beware the (nuts) might not be there when you need them.
Pic to see if they are the same

It's in the title of the thread. The SR1162. It requires disassembly of the tail to replace brackets that then support the pannier racks (P/N 1161, which we haven't talked about in this thread). It also has two tubes that go up to help support the back of the topcase rack like this:

I appreciate the input - but you have a different kit, on a different bike.

 

oof

 

Ok sorry. I didn't remember what I installed. Good luck

 

So... I owe a big thank you to @Kiyoti for sending me a few pictures to help me through the process. Givi really, really, dropped the ball on their instructions. In the end, it is a nice product and a very solid mount, but it was miserable to install. They go to great lengths to reinforce the OEM grab rail to support everything. It's a shame they didn't put a little more effort into the instructions.

Here is a picture of the tail plastic that I found very helpful:

Knowing the position of the lower clips (highlighted in red), and the white push-clip (highlighted in green) really helped immensely. To remove, I started by popping the clips along the top of the plastic and then pulled that white push clip straight outward. Then bend it the plastic outward and towards the front of the bike a bit. It will pop out and you can work the lower clips out.

A couple of other points I discovered...

Don't forget to use the U-shaped support bracket provided in the kit that holds the back of the grab rail. If you try to reassemble with the original part, the grab rail will sit a few mm too high to properly reassemble the tail. I also had to bend this part in a vice to get it to mate to the tail section properly.

The tail light pops out by removing two nuts but then pushing the bottom locating peg out of the rubber grommet before removing the mounting screws form their holes.

This is in the instructions but you have to look closely. When installing the cross brace with the metal well nuts... you have to use the bracket to position them and tighten them in place (expanding them) one by one using just one end of the bracket. Then position the bracket in place and thread both nuts in. There isn't room, even if you drop the tail liner, to get them both in place at the same time due to the angles.

If you drop one of the screws that holds the fender to the tail, it is possible for it to fall down the frame tube never to be seen again. (I tried in vain to fish it out with a magnet attached to a fish-tape). Fortunately, my "big box 'o Honda screws" had a suitable substitute.

If you install this, plan for it to take 3 times as long as it should, and just be patient. Good luck.

 

Been following this thread
Not going to risk damaging plastics etc
Been looking at alternatives but still can’t understand why they put a different rack on the ATAS v standard model

 

Here is a link to my post a couple of years ago - Tips on fitting Givi SR1161 rack only to ATAS.

Honda Africa Twin Forum

www.africatwinforum.com

This point was not in the instructions but I stress this in my post "you will struggle to reposition the rear end unless you release the black metal body panel screw on the outside of both sides of the rear mudguard positioned two thirds of the way down toward the swinging arm pivot point."

Take your time and while it is a lot of messing about it is not that difficult. You will have peace of mind from the 10k weight limit of the Honda rack once SR1161 is fitted.

 

Must have watched that video on YouTube about 1/2 dozen times. Just watched again
Defo above my skill level. My fear wouldn’t be taking everything apart/ it would be the putting back together. A totally ridiculous amount of work to fit a top plate when no issues to fit on the standard model.
wondering how much the local dealership would charge to fit later in year when in for next service 🤣

 

Yah it was a way more difficult install than it needed to be. I ended up cracking on the tabs on my right side but it ended up still holding fine. If I had known the headache it would have been before I started I would have never done it.