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I use their C Bow frames with 'Street' panniers on my AT. Works for me - the panniers are easy to fit and the frames look OK when riding without luggage. For those who prefer soft luggage, they're definitely worth considering. The bags aren't waterproof but do come with a waterproof, removable, inner bag - but it's very bulky. I use an old pair of Oxford external pannier covers instead.
 

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Sorry to report, I have H&B top crash bars. Crashed at less than 30k/h too much flex as the top mounting point is just there to hold the bars from falling onto the f/guard IMO, the bars also have to be removed each time to do a A/Filter check/change. Yes crashed both sides and cracked fairing both sides. Also the flex backwards caused small dint's in the lower front of the Fuel Tank, yes both sides, and yes they were installed correctly and all bolts tight. H&B need to do a much better job here, or just call them Driving Light Mounting Bars. IMHO.
 

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Sorry to hear about the damage to your AT. I had heard good things about the H&B uppers since they are supposedly mounted to the frame. I am still waiting for Alt Rider to come out with their version. Supposedly in July, until then I ride cautiously and carry a rabbit's foot in my pocket for luck and a 4 leaf clover stuck to my forehead. It seems to work!
 

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Sorry to hear about the damage to your AT. I had heard good things about the H&B uppers since they are supposedly mounted to the frame. I am still waiting for Alt Rider to come out with their version. Supposedly in July, until then I ride cautiously and carry a rabbit's foot in my pocket for luck and a 4 leaf clover stuck to my forehead. It seems to work!
Dam! High Country, I knew I forgot to carry something in my bag. (Maybe It'll work for me as well :))
The H&B do mount directly to the frame, but only behind the headers and only with 1 bolt, at the top they mount to the Headlight sub frame, with 6mm bolts, this is not rigid enough. The flex sideways and backwards happens at the top half where the damage is caused. So my advise sorry to say "H&B" is stay away from this design type bar. :)
 

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Sorry to report, I have H&B top crash bars. Crashed at less than 30k/h too much flex as the top mounting point is just there to hold the bars from falling onto the f/guard IMO, the bars also have to be removed each time to do a A/Filter check/change. Yes crashed both sides and cracked fairing both sides. Also the flex backwards caused small dint's in the lower front of the Fuel Tank, yes both sides, and yes they were installed correctly and all bolts tight. H&B need to do a much better job here, or just call them Driving Light Mounting Bars. IMHO.
Pics or it didn't happen.>:)
 

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I had a full Hepco Becker crash bar setup and decided to ditch the lower bars for something more rigid. I found Black Dog Cycle Works lower bars to be very rigid and protective and as a bonus, they make a stiffening brace for their lower bars that is used in conjunction with Hepco Becker upper bars. With the Black Dog lowers and the Black Dog stiffening brace, the Hepco Becker uppers are far more rigid. I don't think any upper crash bars are great because of the lack of a solid upper attachment point, but with the Black Dog brace in place, I think this may be as good as it gets. I haven't crash tested them yet, but this arrangement is certainly a big improvement over the Hepco Becker uppers with no bracing. I also aded the Black Dog skid plate - that thing is built like a tank and provides good protection for the edges of the engine casing as well as the headers. You can see the Black Dog products here:

http://blackdogcw.com/bikes/honda-africa-twin-crf-1000l/

Photos attached showing the Black Dog lower bars with bracing bar and the Hepco Becker uppers, as well as the Black Dog skid plate.
 

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Pics or it didn't happen.>:)
No worries Mudslinger, your right no slinging mud if no pics, here they are.
Sorry if you have H&B's
 

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No worries Mudslinger, your right no slinging mud if no pics, here they are.
Sorry if you have H&B's
Thanks for the pics.
Yea, those are worthless if you have to replace the plastics that they damaged anyway. Except now you have to replace the crappy bars too. Not worth the time or money.
Oh, and stop dropping your bike so much.
 

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I spoke to the guys at Black Dog while they were at the Overland Expo here in Flagstaff this month. Their stuff is top notch, and very sturdy. I am surprised that they have not put some upper bars into production themselves. Really like their giant foot pegs but they are pricey. You can't go wrong with their accessories TMac
 

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Thanks for the pics.
Yea, those are worthless if you have to replace the plastics that they damaged anyway. Except now you have to replace the crappy bars too. Not worth the time or money.
Oh, and stop dropping your bike so much.
Yea, dropping the bike is no fun, especially when you have to replace other parts.
So now like High Country I'm gana get me a Rabbits Foot :)
O! and a new set of SW Motech Bars, after some research they seem the best for me, time will tell :wink2:
 

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After seeing this I'm glad I cancelled my order. I have the Heed upper bars on their way. I kinda wished I have already added a Bumot bash plate because the Heed full, upper and lower crash bars look incredibly solid. Best price I've seen on bars too. FYI the Heed upper bars are called the "Basic" and the full kit is called the "Bunker"

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