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Hi, potential new AT owner here , test ride tomorrow and hopefully it will be as good as i have read it is .. and better in the areas my F800 Adv isn't so good in ... if you get my meaning . seem a lot of reviews comparing it to the GS 1200 .. but i like my F800 way better than i did my Gs1200 .. anyway we will see .>:)
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i had an 800GS too before and after big GSs.

I liked it too but found it very uncomfortable for distance especially two up. agony in fact sometimes praying for fuel light to come on just to stretch our legs.

the AT is probably better compared to the F800GS really as its probably nearer to that bike than the 1200GS.

I've covered 850 miles so far and am very happy with my choice, I'm sure you will enjoy your test ride even if you don't decide its the bike for you.
 

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Test ride done , My thoughts

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so today I got to test ride the A/Twin all be it the DCT model .. I,m glad I have an Manual on order :) . sorry just my preference (confirmed after test) .
So basically I,m comparing it to my F800 Gsa .
Now the main thing I disliked about the A/T was it felt way too much like a Single ... Plenty of power but like a single .. I put this down to the dct in Drive it seemed to labour and in sport it was a bit too revy ... maybe this could be tuned out with the modes etc But I didn't have time to play that much , My Gs was I thought smother and less viby .. I put this down to the DCT gear selection thing .
on the plus side , brakes are great bike seemed comfortable but not sure its as comfy as my Gsa plenty of 600 mile days on that and not sure the A/T will be as easy on the cheeks . Handling wise it feels twitchy but with some suspension play I don't see it being a problem ..
Heated grips adequate ... but A/T could do with a bit more range .
Yeh yeh I know this all sounds a little negative and I,m sure some of you are saying "well just keep GSA" but I think the Honda is the way forward and considering its only been available a few weeks I,m sure theres more to come :) >:)
 

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Interesting feedback of the DCT, not what I was expecting given the amount of reviews that have positive feedback about it. But I do also factor in what individuals like ourselves have to say, often times we offer more value than those reviewers.
 

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@ Adventurer

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Re the DCT .. it just seems to be early thru the gears accelerating and late down them braking .... so easing off the throttle it seems to stay in top to some low speed maybe 30 ish mph then if you want to accelerate again it just seems to labour in top rather than down changing .:|
 

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D mode does that - I did a quick review of my demo ride that may still be around on this forum where I found the same thing - it was the main thing I wasn't sure about.
On my second demo I played around with the S modes and manual changes a lot more and it worked really well. So I've ordered one! I can't see myself using the standard D mode much at all.
 

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Hi,
I just ordered my 2016 Africa Twin at the Toronto Motorcycle Show last weekend.
I ordered the DCT because everybody who rode it after saying they only wanted the manual came back and said they liked the DCT a lot better, especially off road.
I think the key is, they were doing there own shifting. There are a lot of advantages that the DCT gives you over a manual. I have a 2004 Ducati St4s ABS and a 2006 CBR1000RR and I only clutchless upshift. Everybody without fail said the DCT made riding off road a lot easier for them and made them faster. I'm really looking forward to getting the DCT, I think it will be a lot of fun. Apparently most of the bikes in Moto GP have installed DCT's in them which apparently makes the riders even faster by being able to upshift and downshift at lightning speed without even thinking about it. I remember once reading that if you were racing Valentino Rossi on a manual transmission bike and you were riding the same bike with a quick shifter or DCT, every time you shifted you would gain 10 Ft on Rossi. Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong either way. The manual and the DCT will both be a lot of fun to ride. But I know one thing, I won't be putting mine in Drive very often, I'll be pulling trigger shifter on every opportunity....lol. Can't wait for it to come in June.
 

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Thanks for the input and as I said , I figured it was something to do with just selecting drive and I,m sure with some juggling with the buttons and switches it would have been fine ... But my Prefference is Manual ..I,m no GP racer or Dirt star .. so alls good :) .
 

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Thanks for the input and as I said , I figured it was something to do with just selecting drive and I,m sure with some juggling with the buttons and switches it would have been fine ... But my Prefference is Manual ..I,m no GP racer or Dirt star .. so alls good :) .
That's exactly what i've been seeing reported, although DCT is good and had its upsides to going off road and being in those conditions, there is however that need for some to still have manual, and i'm one of those.
 

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I own a NC700x-DCT for 4 years and have traded it against an AT-DCT.
You have to get used to the DCT and then you will fully appreciate it. As mentioned elsewhere, and also my experience, the low rev and low fuel consumption D mode is only meant for relaxed road cruising. However the further you open the throttle the longer it will hold the gear. Auto down shifting in D mode will also be at very low rpm, for the NC700X at 1500 rpm, for the AT slightly higher. But you can always interfere by manual downshifting, also in auto D (and S) mode. For offroad, only the S mode will come into play, of which the AT has 3 different S modes. Up- and downshifting at different rpm levels; S1 at the lowest rpm and S3 at the highest rpm. Also in S mode, the further you open the throttle, the longer it will hold the gear. While driving you can quickly toggle between auto and manual mode. For overtaking the DCT has also a kick down feature, but I prefer the manual down shift, because this works faster; possibly on the AT this has also been improved.
DCT, especially of the AT, a very flexible system.
 
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