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I read that article also, hopefully it won't be an issue.
 

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Just going to stick around and see how they mitigating the vibrating
P twins are usually smoother then V twins which is a good sign. I wonder if they're worried about high RPM cruising. Would be the only reason I can think of to coat everything in rubber...
 

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My 2003 Varadero XL1000V, which sadly I had to leave behind in Europe when we moved to Canada in 2013, had rubber on the foot pegs and weights (dampers) on the handlebar ends was still a great touring machine and vibration was low on the list of very few niggles in my eyes. We rode all over Europe on that, sometimes doing over 1000km per day. As you probably know it had a thumping great 1000cc V twin in it. Personally I'd not fret too much about a bit of rubber being spied here and there on the CRF AT.

Right now I have a 2007 Triumph Tiger 1050 sitting in a space where one day, no doubt, a new CRF AT will eventually reside.
 

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My 2003 Varadero XL1000V, which sadly I had to leave behind in Europe when we moved to Canada in 2013, had rubber on the foot pegs and weights (dampers) on the handlebar ends was still a great touring machine and vibration was low on the list of very few niggles in my eyes. We rode all over Europe on that, sometimes doing over 1000km per day. As you probably know it had a thumping great 1000cc V twin in it. Personally I'd not fret too much about a bit of rubber being spied here and there on the CRF AT.

Right now I have a 2007 Triumph Tiger 1050 sitting in a space where one day, no doubt, a new CRF AT will eventually reside.
Glad to hear that, it helps to hear from someone who comes from that experience.

Guess it shouldn't end up being something to be worried about
 

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Glad to hear that, it helps to hear from someone who comes from that experience.

Guess it shouldn't end up being something to be worried about
I would hang around for sure. Honda rarely get it that wrong and with a bike such as this they will be bending over backwards to bring to the market something that will topple the GS from it's perch.:)
 
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My 2003 Varadero XL1000V, which sadly I had to leave behind in Europe when we moved to Canada in 2013, had rubber on the foot pegs and weights (dampers) on the handlebar ends was still a great touring machine and vibration was low on the list of very few niggles in my eyes. We rode all over Europe on that, sometimes doing over 1000km per day. As you probably know it had a thumping great 1000cc V twin in it. Personally I'd not fret too much about a bit of rubber being spied here and there on the CRF AT.

Right now I have a 2007 Triumph Tiger 1050 sitting in a space where one day, no doubt, a new CRF AT will eventually reside.
Ah, curious to hear how you find the Tiger? compared to your old Vera?
 

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I am planning on waiting it out after the bike is released for a while to make sure that the reviews and everything come out positive.
 

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Looks like the rubber is mainly for road riding, underneath are claw style off road pegs. This from MCN:

"...while the footpegs are bear-claw style off-road items designed for grip when the going gets muddy. Thankfully, they’re also fitted with removable rubber blocks for added road comfort and vibration reduction."
 

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Ah, curious to hear how you find the Tiger? compared to your old Vera?
The Vara (we're talking 2003 MK1 - SD01 here) had more solid feel overall than the 2007 Tiger 1050. Mind you, the Tiger feels much lighter.

The Tiger (Fuel Injection) definitely has more acceleration than the Vara (SD01 twin carb), which in turn had more acceleration that the later FI Vara's (late 2003 onwards).
The V twin motor in the Honda had much better pulling power lower down the rev range than the Triumph parallel twin.
Suspension wise the Vara seems to cope better with bigger bumps on paved and unpaved roads.
Both bikes pretty much handle the same IMHO, but on loose surfaces you might prefer the Tiger as it is a little lighter with seating slightly lower to the ground.
Braking seems about the same. The Tiger I have has ABS. The Vara I had was the Honda split braking system (Non ABS).

Electrics/switchgear on the Honda seem better made/better quality than the Triumph.
The Tiger sucks up battery power over time when switched off, key out. I'm talking more than normal battery voltage loss one might expect over time.
I've read stories online from other Tiger owners of batteries going flat if the bike is not used for a couple of weeks. I work away for weeks at a time. As with the Vara (original OEM battery lasted 10 years) I keep the Tiger on an Optimate to maintain the battery during spells of inactivity.
To me I felt that the Twin beam headlights (low and high beam) on the Vara gave better lighting than the Tigers single beam setup. It's a shame Triumph didn't make the tiger lights both come on when on high or low beam.

The so called 'clutch safety switch' gave me grief a while back. First thoughts were... flat battery! Eek! Digging deeper changed my opinion pretty quickly. If you ever own an older Tiger you must read up on the safety switches (clutch & Side stand) as, when they get dirty, they will cause all the symptoms of a failing battery, failing charging system, or failing starter motor when in fact the engine management system is simply not getting the correct signal from a dirty malfunctioning safety switch so cuts out the starting process just as it tries to start.

I pot on the rear brake calliper was sticking on the Tiger. I freed it off after removing the calliper and cleaning the pistons up, but never had that on the Honda in 10 years.

My overall opinion is Honda have a better build qaility and better parts bin selection than Triumph but that is only my experience based on just one bike from each manufacturer. I guess I'm not counting a Honda wave 125cc step-through that we bought new in Thailand in 2000 and I know is still going strong in Thailand in 2015 with over 200,000 km on the clock! :)
 

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Looks like the rubber is mainly for road riding, underneath are claw style off road pegs. This from MCN:
Removable rubber isn't uncommon. Saves your $500 road boots from getting chewed up unnecessarily riding down the highway.

Vibration? There is no way it's going to be like riding a Thumper across the country. Besides, that gives the bike personality.
 

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Removable rubber isn't uncommon. Saves your $500 road boots from getting chewed up unnecessarily riding down the highway.

Vibration? There is no way it's going to be like riding a Thumper across the country. Besides, that gives the bike personality.
didn't yamaha have versatile ones at some point, on the S10 IIRC? They were cushy when sitting, but then if you got up and pushed into them the grippier claws 'poked' through...I think it was yammi...
 

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You are correct Nes. I had an S10 and the pegs worked great. With sitting pressure your feet are on rubber and when you stand they compress and you get the cleats. I think the BMW GS Adventure comes without but pretty much all the others have rubber. I think it is a nonissue.
 

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Vibey?? No way!

I don't think vibration will be a problem with the new AT. Honda have been masters at quelling vibes for over 35 years. The engine is the same layout as the Super Tenere and I've not read anything about vibes being harsh or even a factor on that bike. I would expect Honda to be even better in that respect. I would not expect Goldwing or ST1300 levels of smoothness though. The question of seat comfort and wind management (which Honda doesn't do very well, but who does?) would be a bigger issue as far as 'rider discomfort' goes. I imagine that MadStad and National Cycle will be selling a lot of shields to AT owners. I bet Seat Concepts is also 'tooling up'.

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Davo makes a good point, as with just about any new purchase i'd say its best to wait for enough feedback to be sure unless taking the dive right away is what some are willing to do.
 
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