No LED turn signals on the US models
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According the rep I spoke with at the Long Beach Motorcycle show, the LED OEM euro lights don't comply in one form or another to US regs. It was explained that it had more to to do with shape then the filament/bulb. I have no idea if that is true or not but I'm planning on converting mine to euro led. At the moment, I can't seem to find a supplier and I suspect Honda won't have these in stock until they catch up production but once I can get my hands on these the US turns signals are gone!
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For sure! They look so much nicer than the clunky incandescents. Plus, it'd be nice to free up a bit of wattage for accessories, too.
Can any UK owner validate these are the correct LED "winkers" (Turn signals or blinkers for us USA folk)
https://us.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5834735/crf1000-dct-africa-twin/winker-crf1000acrf1000d
https://us.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5834735/crf1000-dct-africa-twin/winker-crf1000acrf1000d
I use Barkbusters for their original intended purpose - to shed off slappers and protect levers, bars and hands when I drop the bike off-road.
The idea of putting turn signals on the outside of something designed to get bashed escapes me.
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My son and I have been using the comparable ZETA bark busters with LED indicators on our DRZ400's for 11yrs, with no issues.
And they have seen some serious abuse from trees, bushes and wiping out.
And I don't think I'll be riding the new AT quite as aggressive as I've been riding my DRZ.
The Barkbusters should work out fine on the AT.
I may have to take a look at them.
Outstanding, now to source the proper relay that doesn't cost $300USD...That's them.......
For those that are wondering here are the part numbers for what you need. Now, the collar, nut and rubber mounting may not be necessary, but the rest are.
33400MJPG61 - R.FR
33450MJPG61 - L.FR
33600MJPG61 - R.RR
33650MJPG61 - L.RR
38301MJPG61 - relay comp winker
33612MEED00 - rubber mounting x4
33611MEED00 - collar x4
9405006070 - nut x4
If you look at any of the sites selling the integrated LED turn signals for barkbusters or sw motech handgaurds, there's an optional relay you can purchase. Might work with the euro LEDs
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Just to add into this thread...........the US bikes have a different main wiring loom to the Euro bikes. The Euro bikes have a 13 pin LED relay for the LED indicators, but the US bikes do not have this facility in the wiring loom.
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https://www.amazon.com/Lockhart-Phillips-Signal-Flasher-Relay/dp/B002FDINEU
http://www.lockhartphillipsusa.com/LP-USA-LED-SPORTBIKE-FLASHER-RELAY-HONDA-KAWASAKI-YAMAHA.html
Note: the Lockhart Phillips LED Flash relay will adjust the flash on two turn signals.
Can't understand why the LED relay costs so much. Take a look at the above links that should provide a solution.
http://www.lockhartphillipsusa.com/LP-USA-LED-SPORTBIKE-FLASHER-RELAY-HONDA-KAWASAKI-YAMAHA.html
Note: the Lockhart Phillips LED Flash relay will adjust the flash on two turn signals.
Can't understand why the LED relay costs so much. Take a look at the above links that should provide a solution.
You'll need to order the parts listed above and then either run an inline resistor or new relays.
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I'm sure that you have a point for those riders that are often on small trails with branches and difficult terrain to negotiate.
Many Adventure riders ride made up roads and unmade roads/logging trails and often the use the same bike to commute. Anything, when commuting in traffic, that helps cagers see you and where you intend to go, has to be a good thing. If the bark buster indicators ever get trashed they'd be easy enough to replace. For the majority of riders I doubt that will be very often, if at all.
Be prepared to fork out around $400 with shipping to get these...
Okay, I have the winkers on order from Rugged Roads. In order to get prepared for the install, I am thinking through a few issues.
Since the wiring for the USA bike doesn't have the LED flasher circuit, the simplest wiring might be the addition of the resistors. In another post I see that the required resistance for a proper flash rate is about 30 ohms. All of the retail packaged load resistors I can find have a resistance that is too low, so I am looking at wiring up my own using a 30 ohm, 50W resistor like this one. My questions with this option are:
1. Is this sufficient (or excessive) wattage for the required load? I would like to use one resistor for each pair of bulbs. Answer: each incandescent blinker is 21W, so 50W should be enough. However, it may make sense to upsize to 75W or 100W in order to get a larger heatsink.
2. Since it has a large heatsink, where would be a good place to mount the resistor(s), front and rear? Ideally someplace with airflow to help move the heat off the fins.
3. The alternative would be to use an LED flasher relay, but doing so would require removing the thermal flasher(s) from the existing incandescent circuit. Does anyone know where they can be found? Answer: The stock winker is silent which means it's not in fact a thermal flasher; the parts list shows a relay. I found another post that indicates that I have to take the fuel tank off to access it. That sounds like a lot for this project.
Thanks!
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