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Hi from Australia

After just 400km and few less than satisfying moments I have had the standard trailmax tyres replaced. Conti tkc70 put on by my honda dealer at cost price. Haven't been on damp road yet but after reading various forum comments and seeing the poor guy falling off on youtube ...

Can you help me out by commenting with any trailmax moments you have had below.

So far this is a fantastic bike, can't get my head around Honda's choice of factory fitted rubber.
 

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They are probably the worst tyres I have ever had on any motorcycle I have owned. Several times in the wet I nearly came off because of them. They would freely spin up in a straight line in the wet. The back wheel frequently locked up under braking in the wet and sometimes in the dry, with very little provocation. As a result my confidence in them was totally shot. I had a similar situation with Z8's on my previous NC 700, as did others. Z8's are normally good road tyres.


My assessment is totally borne out after I replaced them, well before they were worn out. I used Pirelli MT90's and all the issues disappeared overnight. No more bad moments with the Pirellis. Imho any replacement tyre would be better than these Dunlops. I use Trail Smarts on my Triumph and they are excellent tyres. For that reason I could not understand why the AT OEM Dunlops were so bad. I wrote to Dunlop Europe about the matter and they responded. They told me that the Trail Max's on the AT were specially made to specifications required by Honda. As such they are disowning the situation. Perhaps Honda should leave the Rubber spec to the experts and stick to what they do best. I am also thinking that the same situation probably pertained to the Z8's on my former NC700..........
 

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In 4000 miles I've had no problems with the OE tyres including a 280mile trip in torrential rain.
3,700km on mine including the rain, no problems whatsoever. I don't cane it everywhere and ride cautiosly in the wet though.
 

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Hi Griff are the Pirelli MT 90 tyres suitable for both on and off road.i will b 85% on road and in wet and windy and this weather icy conditions ?
 

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The stock tires were the worst tires I have ever had on any motorcycle the past 40 years.

Downright scary in wet conditions.

Totally unpredictable loss of rear end in the wet, even with conservative driving.

Replaced after 1200 kms with Mitas E-07's, which are supposedly a 50/50 tire.

The E-07's were instantly, and exponentially, better than stock, despite the more aggressive tread.

After reading comments on the stock tires, I believe the issue is likely poor batches coming out of the factory, but not all batches are bad.

My stock tires were unsafe.
 

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I had the same experience as Hemdawg with the stock tyres. Changed to Conti Trail Attack 2's which have totally transformed the bike.
 

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utter shite

Another owner who has changed them early due to piss poor performance when wet. Now have Conti TA2's fitted and feel a LOT safer

:surprise:
 

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I just spooned on a K60 rear and a TKC80 front. Only put 30 miles on them so far and my first impression is good. I had them up to 80 mph on a private chipseal road and they were stable and the bike just feels more planted. The front feels a little twitchy at low speeds but I put that down to the aggressive knobby tread. I didn't want to push them before I get them scrubbed in. But the bike feels like a different bike and I need some time to get used to the more precise handling I guess.
 

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Hi Griff are the Pirelli MT 90 tyres suitable for both on and off road.i will b 85% on road and in wet and windy and this weather icy conditions ?

They are predominantly a road tyre and I first used them on my KTM 950 Adventure. They were just as good on that bike as they are on the AT, and all of my Friends who used them on 950/990's had a good opinion of them. They are fairly decent offroad tyres in reasonably firm going, but like most tyres of this genre they are not so good in muddy conditions.


The only downsides on the roa are a slight tendency to squirm over white lines. They did exactly the same on the KTM 950 but as on that bike, I have become accustomed to that, and the overall excellent grip on the road more than makes up for it. I have thought of trying Pirelli Scorpion Trails but they are even more road oriented and I do occasionally find myself on a track or two.
 

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I had the same experience as Hemdawg with the stock tyres. Changed to Conti Trail Attack 2's which have totally transformed the bike.
I have had the o/e dunlops let go at high ish speed 80/90 mph in the damp and wet when not leaning over far , scary ,as well as a few low speed slides , I like riding in the wet though. A few people say the contis are great bridgestone will have tyre in the spring, I may try the Pirelli scorpion even though they don't last very long , dealers say its the odd rear wheel size that limits choice and of course the tubeless requirement as well
 

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The Dunlop Trailmax Tire's where also fit stock on my current bike, the CB500X 2016 model. I had the same experience with riding in the wet..

They where very slippery.
 

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This is great feedback everyone. Keep it coming.

Just did 1000km on the fresh conti tyres with complete confidence. All dry tarmac though, so a wet test is yet to come.

My dunlop issues were all in the dry, the bike has been transformed
 

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I bought the AT mainly for dirt use, so I fully intended to swap the OEM tyres in any case. But I have to say that those OEM tyres were unpredictable to say the least, and apt to let go without warning in the wet. I couldn't wait to get them off.
 

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I have just replaced the original fitment Trailmax after 10,000 miles. Road use, solo or two up, they were excellent. Now fitted the newer Trailsmart. We shall see but first impression is a much harsher ride. The profile of the new front tyre is better for low speed turning but the harsh ride picks up the rougher road surfaces. Am going to try it with reduced preload and see if that calms things down a bit? Grip wise they seem ok but I never had any issues, except for the low speed steering, with the original Trailmax set up.
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Initially I didn't have any problems with the dunlops in the summer.
But once the temperatures started dropping below 10° centigrade and there are more rainy days than dry I started getting quite frustrated with the OEM setup.

The back tire lets go from the slightest acceleration in the wet, and the front gives zero confidence, especially in low speed cornering.
Having done more km's commuting in wet, dark weather and busy traffic over the last weeks, I've had some quite scary moments that I had never had with previous tires.
Mind you, the **** state of roads over here surely don't help...

I've made up my mind to change to a different set in the nearby future, keeping the dunlops for the summer.
 

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I have just replaced the original fitment Trailmax after 10,000 miles. .


I have never, ever managed to get 10,000 miles out of a set of tyres. In fact at 6000kms (about 4000 Miles) when I replaced them, the stock tyres were 75% worn. I ride briskly but not particularly aggressively most of the time. What is your secret ?
 
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