Oil consumption - 2022 CRF1100 ATAS

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Ricardo Silva

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago

Hello!

In September I acquired a new 2022 Africa Twin Adventure Sports, at the moment it has 6800km and has a very high oil consumption.
Has anyone gone through the same?

My dealer reported it to honda they know the problem but have no solution, they say it is under study.

982km- first oil change
2600km - add 600ml
3950km - add 200ml
4950km - add 100ml
6400km - add 200ml
...........

Everything is done at the dealership, and reported to Honda.

I saw situations that stopped consuming, but I'm not confident.

Thanks.

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2022AFT

· #21 · 1 mo ago

It was already mentioned. Get someone to look at the cld walls. Mine had scratched that were very easy to see. If it is a warranty repair I hope you have another bike to ride. In my case it was over 3 months to get it fixed.

travlgent

· #22 · 1 mo ago (Edited)

DoubleThumper said:
A liter every 1000 kms? Maybe for a V10 Dodge Viper.

In general, and at least for the CRF1000, I have never had to top up the sump between changes and the beastie sees alotta freeway tarmac.

What he said. 12,000 miles on my ‘19 ATAS manual and she stays full between oil changes.

Peter Vred

· #23 · 1 mo ago

I don’t recall ever needing to top off oil between 6k mile changes.
-2019 base manual w/36k miles.

bhaight54

· #24 · 1 mo ago

I have a 2020 ATAS and went to a synthetic after the first oil change and lost a qt after 2K miles. I went back to the regular Honda oil for the next 2 oil changes with out any consumption. On my 4th oil change I went back to Synthetic and now I don't have any consumption what so ever. I think it just needed to break in a lot longer then I thought.

don67

· #25 · 1 mo ago

DoubleThumper said:
spitting blue smoke this early in the AT's life, ... is not so fun.

It definitely caught my attention, but with no significant drop on the dipstick I'm not losing any sleep over it.

I've owned enough machines over the years to realize that the human brain can accurately predict 15 out of every 3 problems 😉

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paulbaker428

· #26 · 1 mo ago

don67 said:
It definitely caught my attention, but with no significant drop on the dipstick I'm not losing any sleep over it.

I've owned enough machines over the years to realize that the human brain can accurately predict 15 out of every 3 problems 😉

😄

Jetro

· #27 · 1 mo ago

The same here: from max to min in 1000 Km. I'm gonna ask for a new AT and trade in this one as this is the last of a long series of inconvenience in 2700 km and I don't wanna get a bike completely dismounted and reassembled when paid per new.

don67

· #28 · 1 mo ago

Jetro said:
The same here: from max to min in 1000 Km. I'm gonna ask for a new AT and trade in this one as this is the last of a long series of inconvenience in 2700 km and I don't wanna get a bike completely dismounted and reassembled when paid per new.

Now that is what a real problem bike looks like. Good luck.

Ricardo Silva

Discussion Starter · #29 · 1 mo ago

Jetro said:
The same here: from max to min in 1000 Km. I'm gonna ask for a new AT and trade in this one as this is the last of a long series of inconvenience in 2700 km and I don't wanna get a bike completely dismounted and reassembled when paid per new.

I understand your point of view and I think the same, but unfortunately Honda says to wait for a repair.

A lot of people say it's normal up to 10,000 km.

Honestly, I didn't want to lose money on an exchange on such a new bike.

***
I would prefer mine to stop consuming

I have PPF in the paint and it was expensive 😅

Jetro

· #30 · 1 mo ago

I use 45-50 L of gasoline for 1000 Km and 1L of oil, that mean i'm running on >2% mix.

It's a 4 stroke, not a chainsaw!

I know Honda says to wait, and that's why I'm looking for another bike, AT or not. Before the oil problem i had a fork leaking, a screw and two passenger cushion lost on road, cluster unaligned. The bike has really rough idling and sometimes shut off when decelerating and engaging the clutch.

It can't be considered normal. If it is, they have to take it in for the value of a 3000 Km / 1 month old bike, and I'm gonna buy something else.

africa_twin_br

· #31 · 26 d ago

Ricardo Silva said:
I understand your point of view and I think the same, but unfortunately Honda says to wait for a repair.

A lot of people say it's normal up to 10,000 km.

Honestly, I didn't want to lose money on an exchange on such a new bike.

***
I would prefer mine to stop consuming

I have PPF in the paint and it was expensive 😅
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Hello

Honda repair your africa?

africa_twin_br

· #32 · 26 d ago

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Iskebiker

· #33 · 25 d ago

Hello,
I was delivered new CRF1100L ATAS Manual on 11.08.2022.
I rode normally first 500km not over 5000rpm as per user manual.
Did first servise at 980km.
Rode until 6800km.
My mistake, I never checked until 6000km, but when I did I had to add 1L of oil.
Oil pressure light did not light.
I measure per manual procedure.
The dealer check after and told me to drive 2000km and then come back for check up.
I did this last week and they had to add 0.5L for this 2000km. Bike has 9037km on the clock.

They offered to do the service and to check spark plugs and with camera cylinders and send to Honda.

Is this a global problem? I do not want them to open a brand new engine.

Let's hope for the best.

I also think Honda 10W30 MA2 oil is crap but i am stuck with that because of warranty.

Does anyone have a contact email of Honda Europe?

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Art

· #34 · 25 d ago

I very much doubt if parting company with Honda's re-branded engine oil offerings would invalidate any warranty. For my two penn'orth here in the UK and the more western parts of Europe a 10W/40 engine oil is better suited to the local climate regardless of what Honda recommends in their latest series of Owners Manuals. A 10W/30 grade may be too thin at times when the average temperatures are approaching or exceeding 30°C (86°F). For what its worth in an earlier series of Owners Manual Honda are recommending either a 10W/30 or a 10W/40 depending on the average temperature in your riding area.

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Jetro

· #35 · 25 d ago

My oil consumption seem to increase: now it reached the minimum level in 800 Km.

Tomorrow I'll head to the dealer again for a refill.

Iskebiker

· #36 · 25 d ago

Art said:
I very much doubt if parting company with Honda's re-branded engine oil offerings would invalidate any warranty. For my two penn'orth here in the UK and the more western parts of Europe a 10W/40 engine oil is better suited to the local climate regardless of what Honda recommends in their latest series of Owners Manuals. A 10W/30 grade may be too thin at times when the average temperatures are approaching or exceeding 30°C (86°F). For what its worth in an earlier series of Owners Manual Honda are recommending either a 10W/30 or a 10W/40 depending on the average temperature in your riding area.

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I agree with you, 10W40 is more suited.
I am afraid if the engine was damaged using 10W30 last summer when temperature was 42°C.

The problem is, dealer insists on Honda oil and I don't want to make a change and void warranty because that is what they want.

Art

· #37 · 25 d ago

You need to put your foot down with the dealer and tell them NO 10W/30 because the average temperatures are set to rise in excess of 35°C and if they think 10W/30 is OK ask the question "what is the ambient temperature service limits for a 10W/30 multigrade engine oil?''

Show them a chart, and if you think for one minute all your local Honda dealer uses is Honda engine oil then you need to go round the back and check their waste/recycling bins.

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rustynut2

· #38 · 25 d ago

I would want the engine fixed no matter what. The thinner oil will disappear quicker, let them use it. There have been a rash of oil burners since they changed to the 1100 from 1000. If I recall they are using a hardened aluminum block with no sleeve. There will be no fix, just a replacement.

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africa_twin_br

· #39 · 25 d ago

rustynut2 said:
I would want the engine fixed no matter what. The thinner oil will disappear quicker, let them use it. There have been a rash of oil burners since they changed to the 1100 from 1000. If I recall they are using a hardened aluminum block with no sleeve. There will be no fix, just a replacement.

No fix?
Just change the entire engine??

rustynut2

· #40 · 25 d ago

Depends, if the block shows scoring then its trash. Would they reuse the crank and pistons, possible. Found this from adv site.

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