[Geddy Boy]

My Afi seems to have lost the cold start set up ?

it wont start without opening the throttle and some times wont start for ages from cold

my dealer has scanned the sensors and cant find anything wrong but acknowledges there is a problem with my bike as he has had issues starting the bike and has asked me to book it in for a through check and he will try to find the problem. it pops and hisses when it does start but runs okay when warm

has anyone else had a problem and what was the cure

I know how to start a modern bike up so it is not me

 

[Captain Scarlet]

Assuming it's not DCT, does pulling in the clutch make any different whatsoever?

 

[Geddy Boy]

Assuming it's not DCT, does pulling in the clutch make any different whatsoever?

No not at all

(its not a DCT)

it starts then stops after about 2 seconds just cuts out, checked all the usual bits like a sticking stand switch or a sticking clutch switch , and tried the spare key as well in case the key had become corrupted , checked for a blocked fuel cap breather

it will start but I have to give it loads of throttle to get it to start and keep running and it pops and bangs while getting to running temp , I've had loads of bikes and do all my own maintenance on my older bikes once out of warranty ! shims coolant fluids etc. its like the throttle body or throttle position sensor has gone out of balance , but dealer has checked the sensors , will take it back again but just wondered if anyone had had a similar issue just to tell the dealer if they had cured it. when it warm it runs lovely but fuel consumption has gone down to 50 , that makes me think its a fuelling issue.

love the bike but just want it sorting

 

[Bartho]

Disconnect the battery for 1 minute will reset the ECu. You never now.

 

[Geddy Boy]

cheers

the dealer has re set the ecu

and done a sweep of the sensors

 

[Mad Frosty]

All good here , no problems .

 

[Geddy Boy]

All good here , no problems .

I had no issues at all until I attempted to start it last Thursday morning

done nothin added nothing changed nothing

love the bike its brill

but want to find out what the issue is

just hoped some one has had a similar issue and sorted it

dealer is to have another look this Thursday (if it starts) when I run it over to him

 

[Geddy Boy]

My dealer tells me its been diagnosed as a temperature sensor , they have put in a warranty claim (on a 21 day old bike mmmmmm) as soon as that's authorized and if the part is stocked in the uk I will get it back

hopefully its sorted (just the grips to sort out and I will be a happy biker . com)

 

[xsilvergs]

Do you mean like this?

https://goo.gl/photos/9DFeoGpQkoh53ndv8

 

[Geddy Boy]

Yes exactly like that ?

my dealer tells me they are still waiting for Honda to authorize the warranty claim , its taken Honda five days so far and I am still waiting, starting to get p******d off now as this is unacceptably poor service for a 21 day old bike with only 700 odd miles on the clock to be off the road for a week for a small item like a sensor.

come on Honda this is crap service

 

[Geddy Boy]

Had a call from Honda today to say they are aware of a issue regarding cold starting

But they would not say how much longer my bike will be off the road awaiting authorization and or delivery of the part.

they also said they are aware of a issue regarding the heated grips and assured me that this will be sorted / replaced once japan have decided what they are going to do

Its Taking too long to replace a simple sensor ??

 

[Yromulus]

It's not great to wait as long as you have just to get the OK for a new sensor.

I suppose they might not be sure it is just the sensor so it could turn into the "mechanic's run-around" where they keep replacing everything until it appears to work. The difference here is that Honda has to pay for it rather than you and so they are perhaps applying their own glacial approach to the process. That certainly appears to be what is happening with S4MST3R's bike that had the DCT problems and with the heated grips.

Slowly-slowly and all that might be the best way but I imagine it's really annoying as a customer waiting to get your bike working properly. I hope it gets sorted soon for you. And I also hope it doesn't start affecting too many others.

 

[Geddy Boy]

Do you mean like this?

https://goo.gl/photos/9DFeoGpQkoh53ndv8

still off the road ?

seven days off the road to replace a sensor

getting extremely peed off with Honda and dealer now , sadly

pretty crap service this ??

some of the worst I've ever received actually

 

[Geddy Boy]

Finally (8 days later) got the warranty claim for the faults on my AFI approved ! parts ordered should be here next Tuesday so fingers crossed collect next Wednesday , 12 days to replace a faulty sensor ???

not good Mr. Honda Not Good at all . love the bike but not your service

 

[Mad Frosty]

Can someone merge the two duplicated threads please ?

 

[Yromulus]

You need to post that request on both threads! Lol

 

[Geddy Boy]

You need to post that request on both threads! Lol

IVE Put in here and the Tech bit

they have replaced the Air temp sensor and the tilt angle sensor

the first sign of things happening now I think about it was increased fuel consumption and the odd cut out on closing the throttle then cutting out on cold start up

finished on this subject I hope after tue/wed

 

[Geddy Boy]

It's not great to wait as long as you have just to get the OK for a new sensor.

I suppose they might not be sure it is just the sensor so it could turn into the "mechanic's run-around" where they keep replacing everything until it appears to work. The difference here is that Honda has to pay for it rather than you and so they are perhaps applying their own glacial approach to the process. That certainly appears to be what is happening with S4MST3R's bike that had the DCT problems and with the heated grips.

Slowly-slowly and all that might be the best way but I imagine it's really annoying as a customer waiting to get your bike working properly. I hope it gets sorted soon for you. And I also hope it doesn't start affecting too many others.

Just had call to collect bike on WED two sensors replaced and fuel and breather lines checked and replaced as required , hope its sorted !! but it still took too long to carry out such a minor repair , so no more posts one hopes on this subject

 

[Geddy Boy]

Do you mean like this?

https://goo.gl/photos/9DFeoGpQkoh53ndv8

Did you get it sorted

my bike seems , fingers crossed okay now , the odd second press is nit a problem but my bike was exactly like yours

what did they find ?

 

[Yromulus]

Perhaps unrelated but I've never owned a bike that smelled of petrol as much as the Honda. I park it in a garage that is reasonably well ventilated and cover it but there is still a distinct petrol smell - but no apparent leaks. It's not garage-forecourt levels - just a subtle smell - "eau de petroleum" if you like.

I'm sure it's a breather somewhere or something but it seems worse than the last bike I had (2004 R1).

Is this normal or do I need to get it checked out?

It also doesn't start as quickly as other bikes I've had - goes first time but after a longer turning-over period. Previous bikes just fired up almost instantaneously. Might just be emissions etc. as the other half's car is similar.