Starting problems

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Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · Apr 5, 2016

My Afi seems to have lost the cold start set up ?

it wont start without opening the throttle and some times wont start for ages from cold

my dealer has scanned the sensors and cant find anything wrong but acknowledges there is a problem with my bike as he has had issues starting the bike and has asked me to book it in for a through check and he will try to find the problem. it pops and hisses when it does start but runs okay when warm

has anyone else had a problem and what was the cure

I know how to start a modern bike up so it is not me

ECU has been re set and a sweep of all sensors has been done with no issues

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Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #2 · Apr 9, 2016

My dealer tells me its been diagnosed as a temperature sensor , they have put in a warranty claim (on a 21 day old bike mmmmmm) as soon as that's authorized and if the part is stocked in the uk I will get it back

hopefully its sorted (just the grips to sort out and I will be a happy biker . com)

Drum Dog

· #3 · Apr 9, 2016

Good luck and thanks for posting.

Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 9, 2016

worth keeping your eye out for bike cutting out when cold

as that's the start of it

Mind you even if the crankshaft had dropped out the bike and bounced down the road Hondas official line would be "its a electrical issue"

be glad to have it back as its a great bike to ride and fun

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Drum Dog

· #5 · Apr 9, 2016

Geddy Boy said:
worth keeping your eye out for bike cutting out when cold

as that's the start of it

Mind you even if the crankshaft had dropped out the bike and bounced down the road Hondas official line would be "its a electrical issue"

be glad to have it back as its a great bike to ride and fun

I can't do as you say just yet. I won't see my bike until August. :crying:
I do appreciate you guys telling us what things to watch out for.

ThirtyOne

· #6 · Apr 9, 2016

Gotta love first-run niggles.

xsilvergs

· #7 · Apr 11, 2016

ThirtyOne said:
Gotta love first-run niggles.

Don't ever buy a BMW, rather than fix the "first run niggles" they change the model, usually every 7 years. :wink2:

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ThirtyOne

· #8 · Apr 11, 2016

Bwahahahaahaha! Advice taken!

I've had a problem-free Honda Civic for the last 8 years and ran a Honda 250 Tornado for 2 years of abuse in Honduras and that thing never missed a beat. Ran into a guy doing a 2 year trip across the USA, and then Baja to Tierra del Fuego on a NCX700 and all he ever did was change brake pads and tires. Not a single hiccup. I feel confident that Honda have a good product, despite the kinks in this first run of the Africa Twin.

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Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #9 · Apr 12, 2016

if you look on the general post another owner has posted a video of exactly the same problem loos like we all have a issue around the corner ??

my dealer tells me they are still waiting for Honda to authorize the warranty claim , its taken Honda five days so far and I am still waiting, starting to get p******d off now as this is unacceptably poor service for a 21 day old bike with only 700 odd miles on the clock to be off the road for a week for a small item like a sensor.

come on Honda this is crap service

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Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 12, 2016

xsilvergs said:
Don't ever buy a BMW, rather than fix the "first run niggles" they change the model, usually every 7 years. :wink2:

HAD BMS , NEVER AGAIN

the most unreliable bikes I've ever owned . com

Gs1000 and RT1150 they just ate money by the wallet full

but I am not a happy Honda owner currently as they just wont keep us updated

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xsilvergs

· #11 · Apr 12, 2016

Thought I'd posted this already.

https://goo.gl/photos/kp48i2DAeoZ1JJm48

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Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 12, 2016

xsilvergs said:
thought i'd posted this already.

https://goo.gl/photos/kp48i2daeoz1jjm48

good man

Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #13 · Apr 13, 2016

Had a call from Honda today to say they are aware of a issue regarding cold starting

But they would not say how much longer my bike will be off the road awaiting authorization and or delivery of the part.

they also said they are aware of a issue regarding the heated grips and assured me that this will be sorted / replaced once japan have decided what they are going to do

Its Taking too long to replace a simple sensor ??

Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #14 · Apr 15, 2016

Drum Dog said:
Good luck and thanks for posting.

Finally (8 days later) got the warranty claim for the faults on my AFI approved ! parts ordered should be here next Tuesday so fingers crossed collect next Wednesday , 12 days to replace a faulty sensor ???

not good Mr. Honda Not Good at all . love the bike but not your service

Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 16, 2016

IVE Put in here and the general discussion bit as well

they have replaced the Air temp sensor and the tilt angle sensor

the first sign of things happening now I think about it was increased fuel consumption and the odd cut out on closing the throttle then cutting out on cold start up

finished on this subject I hope after tue/wed

Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 18, 2016

Just had call to collect bike on WED two sensors replaced and fuel and breather lines checked and replaced as required , hope its sorted !! but it still took too long to carry out such a minor repair , so no more posts one hopes on this subject from me

True Ad Venture

· #17 · Apr 19, 2016

ThirtyOne said:
Gotta love first-run niggles.

A niggle is a defective or problematic part affecting a number of bikes, like the spokes. This is a one-off case.

Geddy Boy

Discussion Starter · #18 · Apr 19, 2016

True Ad Venture said:
A niggle is a defective or problematic part affecting a number of bikes, like the spokes. This is a one-off case.

I can assure you this is absolutely not a one off niggle

hundreds of people have had useless heated grips supplied (why keep fitting them when they know they don't work ? could it be the £300) dozens and dozens of people have rusting spokes after a few weeks of ownership

and 2 other people I know in my area alone have starting issues

I love the bike to bits it puts a smile one your face and I don't intend to sell it yet as its fun to ride ,i just pray its not going to be a lemon

BUT i absolutely loath Hondas total lack of empathy and urgency in resolving these issues once they have got owners £10k in the bank. The people working for Honda are pleasant and polite but the structure they have to work to needs bringing into the modern customer service era

or I will stop buying Hondas like I have triumphs , both company's make brilliant bikes but they pi** you off when you have a problem

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True Ad Venture

· #19 · Apr 20, 2016

Geddy Boy said:
I can assure you this is absolutely not a one off niggle

hundreds of people have had useless heated grips supplied (why keep fitting them when they know they don't work ? could it be the £300) dozens and dozens of people have rusting spokes after a few weeks of ownership

and 2 other people I know in my area alone have starting issues

I love the bike to bits it puts a smile one your face and I don't intend to sell it yet as its fun to ride ,i just pray its not going to be a lemon

BUT i absolutely loath Hondas total lack of empathy and urgency in resolving these issues once they have got owners £10k in the bank. The people working for Honda are pleasant and polite but the structure they have to work to needs bringing into the modern customer service era

or I will stop buying Hondas like I have triumphs , both company's make brilliant bikes but they pi** you off when you have a problem

Maybe you misunderstood my post. I was saying a first-run niggle is defective part or a problem that affects a large number of first year bikes. Like the grip heaters and the spokes on the ATs. Don't think failing sensors fall into that category yet.

I wouldn't be a happy camper either if I was getting the run around from Honda. Hope your bike is sorted and it stays problem-free from now.

ThirtyOne

· #20 · Apr 20, 2016

True Ad Venture said:
A niggle is a defective or problematic part affecting a number of bikes, like the spokes. This is a one-off case.

Actually we are both wrong a niggle is a complaint or a criticism.

Back on topic, as it stands, this half of the hemisphere hasn't seen the AT yet and given the small amount of feedback from owners on this forum alone, it would appear that there are a number of small problems with the first run bike that Honda needs to address as production continues.

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