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All things pro’s v’s cons of a Husqy/KTM aside (and the headlight 😂), this Expedition version is some major competition to the AT? Price point and features (inc heated seat etc) make it strong imo.
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The competition just got stiffer
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I like the look of it as well. IMHO it is also only the 3rd ugliest headlight behind the Transalp and Desert X. But they all look pretty much the same from the seat 
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Couldn't agree more. I'm not taking a chance on them at this point.
Yeah, seems to be the thing, rally style high mount light and some weird shape LED in most cases.I like the look of it as well. IMHO it is also only the 3rd ugliest headlight behind the Transalp and Desert X. But they all look pretty much the same from the seat
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At lest this one is roundish…
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Cruise control and lean sensitive traction control, glad they got that right. Interesting it requires a steering dampener.
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Funny enough I saw the 901 last year at the IOM TT parked outside the B&B I was staying at. And that got the ball rolling for me in the adventure bike market. The africa twin is my first adventure bike ive purchased and I'm certainly not disappointed in it.
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790 and 890 are not made in China by CF Moto though. I don't believe that the 901 is built by CF Moto either. I haven't seen any reference to that othe than what I believe is an incorrect "apparently" statement in a Webikeworld review. ADV Pulse says it is built in Austria.
KTM transfered the 790 design to CF Moto for the CFM 800 design after the debut of the 890. The new 2023 790 release also looks like they are to be made in China.
I have not seen the reports of any issues with the camshafts on KTM forums, so not sure what's going on there.
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So they give it a centre stand, a heated seat and some small looking bags (attached to frames) and all of a sudden it is an 'expedition'. You can pay another £1200 and get a heavy duty wheelset (why not fit a proper heavy duty wheelset as standard? Is the standard one not up to the task?) The only expedition these will go on (in the UK at any rate) is to the local Tesco or Starbucks, or perhaps a weekend away in the Lake District.
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Marketing in the name for sure. Sort of like calling a bike Desert X and then stuffing the air filter beneath the fuel tank. But that's the game manufacturers play. At least everything isn't called "Extreme" anymore.
That said, OEM stock wheel sets and suspension aren't generally designed for true expedition riding. The BMW's used by Ewan and Charlie where heavily modified.Wheel sets are light weight, suspension components are sub-par. Even the Ohlins branded OEM shocks aren't the same quality as the aftermarket ones.
What OEM is putting in something like the Nitron ADV R3 stock? I wish
Edit: I wonder if those bags are a re-badged Keiega Overlander system?
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The bike is assembled in Austria but the engine is built by CFmoto. I've read several reports about this.
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Do you have a link? I don't believe that is true. KTM was supposed to move production to China at one time and that was delayed when the factory in China was not ready. Same issue that killed the 490 Adventure.
And does this only apply to the Norden 901?
Here is a link on the 790 CFMoto 800MT that memtions the 790 motor and KTM has likewise confirmed that the 890 motor is made in Austria, but I don't know for sure on the Norden 901.
Here's the CFMoto 800MT (which looks a lot like a KTM 790 engine!) - Adventure Rider
The new CFMoto 800MT is here, the first big bike to come out of […]
www.advrider.com
Edit: I sent an email to both KTM and Husqvarna. Will see if I get a response from them. Curious
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Husqvarna Releases Norden 901 - webBikeWorld
Husqvarna Motorcycles has finally dropped their anticipated Norden 901 - and it's been tricked out with a very nice list of of off-road perks.
www.webbikeworld.com
From the Norden Forum:
The Norden are assembled in Austria, but the LC8 motor is made in China by CF Moto
I found several sources 2-3 years old stating, that LC8 engine for 790 (and in one source for 890 too) is made by CF moto. No worries, CF moto are decent bikes. Actually 2nd most popular brand here in Czech Republic
There seems to be a lot of disagreement about what engines are or are not made in China and sold by KTM or Husky. Who knows for sure maybe engines are sourced from different countriesbased on sales reqions.
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My understanding is 790 engine, yes, 890 and 901 engine, no. But I bet look into this more.....
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That could be. I also think a lot of the confusion came from KTM's own stated plans to have certain motors built by CF Moto beginning 2021. Then had to backtrack and move it to 2022 and then had to backtrack again scrapping the 490 Adventure and I think the current date is now 2024?Husqvarna Releases Norden 901 - webBikeWorld
Husqvarna Motorcycles has finally dropped their anticipated Norden 901 - and it's been tricked out with a very nice list of of off-road perks.www.webbikeworld.com
From the Norden Forum:
The Norden are assembled in Austria, but the LC8 motor is made in China by CF Moto
I found several sources 2-3 years old stating, that LC8 engine for 790 (and in one source for 890 too) is made by CF moto. No worries, CF moto are decent bikes. Actually 2nd most popular brand here in Czech Republic
There seems to be a lot of disagreement about what engines are or are not made in China and sold by KTM or Husky. Who knows for sure maybe engines are sourced from different countriesbased on sales reqions.
Also, adding to the confusion is only keeping models around for 2-3 years. Even more confusing is scrapping the 790 for the 890 and then announcing in 2023 that you are re-releasing the 790
KTM is a different breed for sure.
But I am curious to see what they respond to my inquiry IF they even respond. They aren't known for steller customer support
Some of KTM's small bikes definitely have motors made in China
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