Honda Africa Twin Forum banner
21 - 40 of 70 Posts
Joints are getting knackered ....
.... at first I thought you meant in the road :ROFLMAO: but then got it .... I'm thoroughly with you .... in a fight on the side of the road between me and a TM I can already tell you who would be the victor ... then at that point having riding boots that are also good for longs walks would come in handy
 
Outex kit here. Have 2 years and many thousands of miles (one and a half sets of Anakee Adventures), and have had no complaints. Went out the other day and checked my TPMS before heading out and it was the same as before the ride the week before to the tenth of a pound. Run on rough roads and on freeway (begrudgingly) at sustained high speed.
 
Outex kit here. Have 2 years and many thousands of miles (one and a half sets of Anakee Adventures), and have had no complaints. Went out the other day and checked my TPMS before heading out and it was the same as before the ride the week before to the tenth of a pound. Run on rough roads and on freeway (begrudgingly) at sustained high speed.
Excellent to read @VFMoore.
 
I am wanting to go tubeless. I want to keep the same 18/21 wheel sizes so looking at my options.
The Kineo look great but very expensive. (£2458)

Alpina look decent, have good colour options and the black rim with coffee hubs would look great but expensive as well but a bit cheaper than the Kineo.(£1779)

I see that there are SMPro wheels with their Airtight System which are a good price but seems they are only available for the CRF1000's, so probably not an option for me. (£1248 if an option)

Any other options out there?

My other option, which would obviously be way more expensive but is one that may be worth considering, is seeing how much of a trade in I would get against a new 2022 ATAS, I reckon that would probably cost me about £4000 + but would mean a new bike with tubeless as standard.
I suggest you to watch the video attached, I´m convinced that's a good option ...
(2148) Sabías que puedes convertir tus llantas de Neumático en SelloMatic? - YouTube
Is in Spanish but clearly undestend how they do the conversion...
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
Yes, have watched it previously, good cheap option but not keen on the tyre security aspect as the tubeless bead bump may be affected. The front of the AT doesn't have the tubeless bead bump so is one of the reasons I am shying away from the DIY conversions.
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
First day of a negative Covid test so headed up to the Honda dealers, sadly I was not offered as good a trade in deal as I had hoped and new ones are flying out the door faster than they can get in.
So not sure which way to jump now but have to make up my mind quick as the new ATAS in the colour I want are very low in stock in the UK.
Decisions decisions :D
 
First day of a negative Covid test so headed up to the Honda dealers, sadly I was not offered as good a trade in deal as I had hoped and new ones are flying out the door faster than they can get in.
So not sure which way to jump now but have to make up my mind quick as the new ATAS in the colour I want are very low in stock in the UK.
Decisions decisions :D
In terms of difference, does the new ATAS have tubeless and a bigger tank or any thing else?
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
The ATAS has the bigger tank which is probably not a big deal for me although always nice to have a bit more range.
It has cornering lights but again no big deal.
Heated grips and accessory socket but I already added them to mine so no big deal.
It does have the tubeless wheels and that is the main reason for the upgrade thoughts.
If I disregard the price difference between the ATAS and the standard I am looking at about £700 more than if I just bought Kineo wheels and new tyres or if I went Alpina then about £1350 more so I suppose it is not too bad a difference for a 9 month newer bike. However I also have to consider I would need new tank side and top pads, front light cover and different crash bars as they are the things I have added that can't be swapped over so that would add another £4-500 to my costs..
 
... don't have anything meaningful to add technically but would just wonder your same question: how much expense is practical to upgrade to tubeless ... what's the likelihood you'll actually have a tube fail? Sounds like you're happy with the existing machine, what if you trade and get one you're less happy with ... maybe keep your existing machine and carry a can of tube-type tire slime? How much would a road service subscription be that would just come get you in the event of a problem? Although I share your sentiments in my case my bike has been such a faithful performer I'll just live with tubes for now. Good luck! ... let us know what you decide
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
I have Honda assistance for the next 2 and a bit years but not knowing how long they would take to get to me is another thing :D
I decided 50 times through the night, kept waking up :D
This morning I said right that is it I have decided and then I changed my mind again, then back again :D
 
Would you make the difference up by selling privately? I’ve found when trading in motorbike the dealers are very tight unlike car dealers that have been quite generous with trade ins
 
The ATAS has the bigger tank which is probably not a big deal for me although always nice to have a bit more range.
It has cornering lights but again no big deal.
Heated grips and accessory socket but I already added them to mine so no big deal.
It does have the tubeless wheels and that is the main reason for the upgrade thoughts.
If I disregard the price difference between the ATAS and the standard I am looking at about £700 more than if I just bought Kineo wheels and new tyres or if I went Alpina then about £1350 more so I suppose it is not too bad a difference for a 9 month newer bike. However I also have to consider I would need new tank side and top pads, front light cover and different crash bars as they are the things I have added that can't be swapped over so that would add another £4-500 to my costs..
Will your SC can fit on the new one?
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
IDK if this was mentioned but in the event you’re leaning toward trading are you confident the new bike would be free from the historically reported Honda factory tubeless wheel issues? Was that all resolved?…
I think all the problems I have seen have been guys that do fairly hard off road which sadly is not something I can do around here even if I had the skills.
 
I guess you're still struggling with the decision now Sat morn ... if you decide to trade and don't do as well on the trade-in as liked maybe ask them to throw in an extended warranty to help make up the difference ...
 
21 - 40 of 70 Posts