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Unleashing the engines potential with Rapid Bike, Woolich Racing, etc.

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I'd run the Rapid Bike Evo and let it do it's auto adaptive tuning for a while. I don't know what you have done to your bike but there are a couple base maps for the CRF1100 in the RB software, one for stock and one for full exhaust. While the stock narrowband O2 sensor isn't as precise or as quick to make adjustments as the weld-in wideband O2 sensor My Tuning setup, I feel it's fine for most street applications considering the added expense.

Overall, I'm happy with the Rapid Bike setup on my 18 ATAS along with PAIR removal and block off. You can do the filters later, I don't think it is critical and the auto adaptive will adjust for any changes.
 
Hi. Thanks so much for your reply!!!

Are you saying that you don't think it's worth the added expense of the dyno tuning?

The tuner asserts that the EVO won't make any changes to the fueling below 2500 rpm. He said it uses the OEM narrow band o2 sensors to micro adjust the mapping. So, if custom dyno tuning is the only cure for the below 2500 rpm fueling issues, I will go that route. I just don't understand what the point of the EVO is in this scenario. If he is going to do a custom tune from idle to redline, then what is the point of the EVO?
Sounded like you were thinking about skipping the dyno tuning so thought no harm in putting some miles on bike with RB unit with auto adaptive tuning to see how it feels and could always take it back for custom tuning if necessary. RB comes with a base map loaded and other maps available to load in the RB software. Looking at it, there's a map for stock setup and one for full exhaust.

EDR does a lot ecu flashing so if they need to install a RB Evo piggyback module for custom dyno tune then it sounds like whatever flash setup(s) they use, is not available for the AT ecu hence the need for the RB Evo module for fueling adjustment purposes, whether building a custom fuel map on the dyno or any other map already available. RB maps do have fueling changes under 2500 rpm, it's just the auto adaptive tuning is set to not make adjustments below that rpm as it can trigger a MIL. The custom map would be built on the dyno using the RB hardware and software.

Here are the RB Evo stock and full exhaust maps just to give you an idea what the details look like.
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Woolich would have been my preferred option had it been available for my bike at the time as it does open up more tuning options in the ecu. Since not every shop uses or wants to use every brand of tuning/flash kit out there, if you don't have a shop that uses their setup then you're flashing a map from Woolich or welding in a bung for wideband O2 sensor and developing your own map with autotune while riding so a bit more work on the end user.
 
No problem, happy to help. The Rapid Bike My Tuning setup is an option for the RB module that adds a wideband O2 sensor to improve auto adaptive tuning function as the wideband sensor is much more accurate and allows for faster corrections. You have to drill and weld in a threaded bung in the exhaust pipe for the additional wideband O2 sensor. I haven't really felt it necessary for street or ADV bike like the AT. Some sportbikes, track or race bikes, sure.

MIL is malfunction indicator light, check engine light, etc.

Just overall feel at throttle opening and off/on throttle pickup, no popping on decel, no more stalling or bogging - though that was more likely due to replacing the injectors that were not at their best due to the fuel tank flaking issues - that I replaced with serviced/cleaned and tested injectors. The full Termignoni exhaust map I started with for my Leo Vince full system was definitely a bit rich in places and the auto adaptive tuning has been removing a bit of fuel in a some areas while adding in others, as expected. Mostly I don't have any real areas of concern with fueling right now which is nice.

Rapid Bike USA is also responsive to email inquiries for RB users as well and can remote in to your pc and RB software to check settings and make adjustments if necessary too.

No issues with just blocking the hose on the PAIR valve, whatever works. (y)
 
In the RB software when connected to the bike, on the auto adaptivity tab / screen there's a slider bar to set minimum start correction for auto adaptive tuning, on mine start correction is set at 2600 rpm while corrections start at 2400 rpm according to the auto adaptive map. Some bikes and brands have a higher rpm starting point, like 3600 rpm to prevent triggering a MIL.

As I said, I'd ride it and put some miles on it with whatever map the tuner recommends to see how it feels to you. No two bikes are the same or in the exact same state of tune so results can and will vary. You can go back to the tuner or RB with questions or comments on the fueling and if you feel it needs work, decide on which direction to take from there.