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Just reading that the US launch of the AT is expected to be at IMS Long Beach. It was supposed to be at AIMExpo right now but honda pulled it at the last minute.
 

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Wonder why they pulled out? Anything to be concerned about, or does this kind of thing happen all the time?
 

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Just reading that the US launch of the AT is expected to be at IMS Long Beach. It was supposed to be at AIMExpo right now but honda pulled it at the last minute.


Where did you read that Nessuno? I've been planning on seeing the CRF-AT in Sacramento Nov 6-8 ( http://www.motorcycleshows.com/ ). This is disappointing.


All these delays and backtracking makes me wonder if Honda hasn't crossed over the line between being seen as thorough and competent, into the inept and hapless category.
 

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Where did you read that Nessuno? I've been planning on seeing the CRF-AT in Sacramento Nov 6-8 ( http://www.motorcycleshows.com/ ). This is disappointing.


All these delays and backtracking makes me wonder if Honda hasn't crossed over the line between being seen as thorough and competent, into the inept and hapless category.
I read it on ADV, one of the guys there was there on industry day (friday) and he badgered that out of one of the Honda reps...

can't vouch for the validity, but it definitely didn't show up in Orlando
 

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It's a touring show though. So are you saying that the Africa Twin will join the show in Long Beach on the November 20-22?

Why not Portland at the end of October 31st? Or any other show?
 

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Long Beach seems like the ideal market to launch it due to what they identified the demographic make up to be, which is probably highest in that region, among other things.
 

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I would debate that point. Adventure bikes are a hot item all over but the north west must be right up there in terms of the US market. This is the home of Touratech (USA), AltRider, Happy Trails, Giant Loop, Moto Mosko, Konflict Suspension, and I'm sure others that I'm forgetting.
 

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Yeah, or one of the markets with a higher take rate than others.
based on the original AT, the market with the most potential has to be Europe... Honda shows their thinking with bikes like the Transalp that were never offered on both sides...
 

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based on the original AT, the market with the most potential has to be Europe... Honda shows their thinking with bikes like the Transalp that were never offered on both sides...
I think you're probably right, European motorcyclists have been savvy to the whole concept of large displacement ADV bikes a lot longer than most North American riders, save for those died in the wool BMW R/S riders.

Paige, did you guys in the UK get the Honda XR650L on that side of the pond?

Here in the U.S. there has been a core group of Dual Sport/Off Road enthusiasts for many years, primarily riding bikes (many of them on KTM's) in the range of 250cc to 650cc. And while I think the new Africa Twin will do well in the U.S. in terms of sales and popularity, at the end of the day it's somewhat of a specialized bike, much the way KTM's are... they are not intended to be an "everyman" bike. The fact that you won't see Africa Twin's all over the place makes it that much more attractive to me.
 

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I think you're probably right, European motorcyclists have been savvy to the whole concept of large displacement ADV bikes a lot longer than most North American riders, save for those died in the wool BMW R/S riders.

Paige, did you guys in the UK get the Honda XR650L on that side of the pond?

Here in the U.S. there has been a core group of Dual Sport/Off Road enthusiasts for many years, primarily riding bikes (many of them on KTM's) in the range of 250cc to 650cc. And while I think the new Africa Twin will do well in the U.S. in terms of sales and popularity, at the end of the day it's somewhat of a specialized bike, much the way KTM's are... they are not intended to be an "everyman" bike. The fact that you won't see Africa Twin's all over the place makes it that much more attractive to me.
Not officially, they turn up as grey market imports now and then but they are a rare bird indeed.

Truthfully I would of liked to see the AT at 750cc, but the 1000 is better marketing vs BMW/KTM (in their eyes I assume)
 
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