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I must be one of the few who read the operators manual for my vehicles. Probably from flying where pilots were taught to read the manual for any plane you were going to fly. It surprising what may or may not be in the manual. I was not informed the ATAS had a lithium batter before I bought it. As others mentioned bump starting a DCT is not an option. Considering the height of any Africa Twin bump starting is not an option for the solo rider. If you have someone willing to try push it, great. I lucked in a few years ago when replacing my failed battery charger. I purchased a NOCO Genius G3500 3.5A unit. It has functions for lead acid, AGM and Lithium. It also has a water resistant (possibly water proof) case, incorrect polarity protection, is light and reasonably compact. NOCO makes larger and smaller chargers as well. Other manufacturers must make suitable chargers at reasonable costs. Considering the cost of the OEM battery a new charger may be a good investment for the home shop.
 

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I must be one of the few who read the operators manual for my vehicles. Probably from flying where pilots were taught to read the manual for any plane you were going to fly. It surprising what may or may not be in the manual. I was not informed the ATAS had a lithium batter before I bought it. As others mentioned bump starting a DCT is not an option. Considering the height of any Africa Twin bump starting is not an option for the solo rider. If you have someone willing to try push it, great. I lucked in a few years ago when replacing my failed battery charger. I purchased a NOCO Genius G3500 3.5A unit. It has functions for lead acid, AGM and Lithium. It also has a water resistant (possibly water proof) case, incorrect polarity protection, is light and reasonably compact. NOCO makes larger and smaller chargers as well. Other manufacturers must make suitable chargers at reasonable costs. Considering the cost of the OEM battery a new charger may be a good investment for the home shop.
Nothing wrong with following manufacturer's recommendations and Honda's for that matter.
However, a Noco charger did not make it on the recommended list (neither did many others that may be just as good).
Just fact; not diminishing your choice, here.
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EarthX does sell a nice little quick-connect cable that plugs into their jump pack.

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and Motorcycle.com has a little information here on the proper procedures for doing it...

Nothing new ....
Also no jump start if you have an oem honda LI IO , cause the fuse inside can pop and replace it is not an easy operation (you have to take apart the battery body result in broke the plastic)
Unfortunately none of the EarthX offerings will fit.
But reading the linked article is somewhat comforting to know that race teams actually do jump the Li-Ions.
Of course, with their budget- what's another dead Li-Ion?

My solution is to find a suitable replacement for the expensive HY110 from day 1.
That way, if I have to jump-start and kill a cheaper battery I'll be able to live with it
I do understand how one might feel if that happened with the OE :)
The
LFX14L2-BS12
is: 1mm longer than the HY110 battery, however, so need to check if you can fit another mm.
Dimensions are: Width (front to back) 58mm (2.28”) ; Length (side to side) 113mm (4.45”); Height 89mm (3.50”)
I'll report back if I decide to go this route.
 

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...My solution is to find a suitable replacement for the expensive HY110 from day 1.
That way, if I have to jump-start and kill a cheaper battery I'll be able to live with it
I do understand how one might feel if that happened with the OE :)

Dimensions are: Width (front to back) 58mm (2.28”) ; Length (side to side) 113mm (4.45”); Height 89mm (3.50”)
I'll report back if I decide to go this route.
The Shorai LFX14L2-BS12 doesn't appear to be a good substitute to the OEM HY110 as per their words.
This is what Shorai wrote to a friend of mine regarding that battery replacing the OEM one:
“Hello,
Per Shorai Inc USA, none of the Shorai battery can be used to replace that battery.
Regards,
Simon”
 

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Simon would have been more helpful if he had gone as far as to explain why it wouldn't be a good substitute. If it is strictly due to the difference in dimensions, that can be worked around with spacers.

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Simon would have been more helpful if he had gone as far as to explain why it wouldn't be a good substitute. If it is strictly due to the difference in dimensions, that can be worked around with spacers.
Yes, the answer is pretty poor but that's what he've got. Maybe someone else could contact them asking some more details.
 

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Yes, the answer is pretty poor but that's what he've got. Maybe someone else could contact them asking some more details.
Yeah, I will do that and ask if there is some reason other than the dimensions why it won't work. Hopefully I will get someone to give a more detailed response :)

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Edit: Done. I attached the spec sheet for the Eliiypower HY110. I asked them if there was any reason other than the obvious difference in dimensions for why it would not be a suitable substitute. I will report what they say. :)
 

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If your able to fit an elephant into a matchbox then an alternative battery is easy to find . All the batteries I found are at least twice the size of the battery box on 2018 onwards
 

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I am in no way advocating the use of this battery as a replacement for the Eliy.
I just had to find a suitable replacement for myself.
The first thing you see when you open the box is a disclaimer by Shorai
about the incorrect use of a battery that is not "suitable" bla bla.
 
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