[Washryc]

Yeah I couldn't figure that throttle but out either tbh.
Now I'm wondering IF this is something we can control, by making the switches more water tight than when it left the factory.

 

[Yromulus]

My hand muffs are on order as I write this! Lol.

 

[tjjj2006]

Well, glad no physical harm was done to the OP, apart from new undies and valium.

I think (hope) this is going to be a one off situation. the clue for me is the
free play in the throttle, something not right there.

I would guess that water in the switchgear caused gearbox glitch, and human error in servicing combined to produce the buckeroo effect.

All i can say is hope it get sorted and the root cause of the issue is found.

I shall be making a mental note to myself to hit the kill switch if I experience anything like that.

 

[Drago]

Now I'm wondering IF this is something we can control, by making the switches more water tight than when it left the factory.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I used ACF50 spray and Corrosion Block grease on all switch gear internals as soon as I got home, should not have any problems with water in the switch gear, I also removed the block connectors from the REG/REC PGM-FI UNIT and various connections just behind the rear shock and used Corrosion block waterproof grease, these seem to be very exposed to all the crud!bloody stupid place to put em!!

 

[marekm]

This little note alone disqualifies the new AT as a "True Adventure" bike :frown2:

They may have just as well written.

"If the "-" indicator is blinking immediately stop your bike, park it in a safe place, walk to the nearest Starbucks / McDonalds and wait for your Honda dealer to arrive. You will be able to resume your adventure ride as soon as we have......."

The only question which remains:

Should we laugh or cry ?

 

[Washryc]

Now I'm wondering IF this is something we can control, by making the switches more water tight than when it left the factory.

Yes, I used ACF50 spray and Corrosion Block grease on all switch gear internals as soon as I got home, should not have any problems with water in the switch gear, I also removed the block connectors from the REG/REC PGM-FI UNIT and various connections just behind the rear shock and used Corrosion block waterproof grease, these seem to be very exposed to all the crud!bloody stupid place to put em!!

Could you explain what you did? I have never had to "water proof" my bikes...
Having come from riding only make sports, classics and thumpers, I rarely ride in the rain, or try not to as much as I can...

You open up the switchgear unit and spray on all contact points? And grease the contact points as well?

 

[marekm]

No sense in going to Island on the new AT

 

[Yromulus]

Yes - basically, until proven otherwise, we should have bought a different bike. What a shame - and how unlike Honda.

I know a lot of people are saying this might have been an isolated incidence but let's be honest - it's currently a small sample size and a bike has proved to be dangerous. What other conclusion can you draw other than Honda have dropped the ball big time? I'm naffed off - I have to buy another bike I can rely on and I now can't sell the one I have. I hate to say this but maybe I should have bought the BMW after all.

Strange how reality can bite - I thought I had bought a bike I can rely on... Now I'm not entirely sure I want to ride the bike I have in the garage with 24 miles on the clock! B*llocks.

 

[tjjj2006]

Yes - basically, until proven otherwise, we should have bought a different bike. What a shame - and how unlike Honda.

I know a lot of people are saying this might have been an isolated incidence but let's be honest - it's currently a small sample size and a bike has proved to be dangerous. What other conclusion can you draw other than Honda have dropped the ball big time? I'm naffed off - I have to buy another bike I can rely on and I now can't sell the one I have. I hate to say this but maybe I should have bought the BMW after all.

Strange how reality can bite - I thought I had bought a bike I can rely on... Now I'm not entirely sure I want to ride the bike I have in the garage with 24 miles on the clock! B*llocks.

Calm down dear, do you mean the BMW that killed Kevin Ash on its launch.

If I understand you correctly, you dont have a problem with your bike, but want to sell it allready.

 

[Drago]

Could you explain what you did? I have never had to "water proof" my bikes...
Having come from riding only make sports, classics and thumpers, I rarely ride in the rain, or try not to as much as I can...

You open up the switchgear unit and spray on all contact points? And grease the contact points as well?

Yes thats what I always do,it helps stop any corrosion inside the switches and keeps em smooth.. Basically I pull any exposed connectors and apply some waterproof grease to help seal out any moisture.Its preventative maintenance really.

 

[Daffy]

Yes - basically, until proven otherwise, we should have bought a different bike. What a shame - and how unlike Honda.

I know a lot of people are saying this might have been an isolated incidence but let's be honest - it's currently a small sample size and a bike has proved to be dangerous. What other conclusion can you draw other than Honda have dropped the ball big time? I'm naffed off - I have to buy another bike I can rely on and I now can't sell the one I have. I hate to say this but maybe I should have bought the BMW after all.

Strange how reality can bite - I thought I had bought a bike I can rely on... Now I'm not entirely sure I want to ride the bike I have in the garage with 24 miles on the clock! B*llocks.

Calm down old chap, we don't really know what has happened with this bike, don't forget things happen quickly when we're not expecting them and it's difficult to properly remember what actually happened as we have other things to worry about at the time (like survival).

I am involved in incident investigations and it's very common for drivers to describe situations that clearly didn't happen, there will need to be a proper investigation. In the meantime don't turn your pride and joy into a very expensive paperweight.

By the way, I am not suggesting that the OP is spinning a yarn, clearly it is a serious incident that needs urgent investigation but let's not park every dct.

 

[Yromulus]

I take your point - it's a good one. But I'm anxious - I have a bike I want to go places on and it might just have a serious problem. Do I wait for it to be resolved, do I wait for it to happen to me or do I wait for it to be identified as an isolated issue?

I'm nervous!

I'm the first to admit I could be over-reacting. But equally, if I knew this before I had bought the bike I maybe wouldn't have bought it and I'd possibly have bought something else. As my trips are imminent I will now wait anxiously for info - I'm hoping all is ok and its a simple fix - like new switchgear all round. But you can't possibly be sitting there thinking all is ok can you?

 

[tjjj2006]

I take your point - it's a good one. But I'm anxious - I have a bike I want to go places on and it might just have a serious problem. Do I wait for it to be resolved, do I wait for it to happen to me or do I wait for it to be identified as an isolated issue?

I'm nervous!

I'm the first to admit I could be over-reacting. But equally, if I knew this before I had bought the bike I maybe wouldn't have bought it and I'd possibly have bought something else. As my trips are imminent I will now wait anxiously for info - I'm hoping all is ok and its a simple fix - like new switchgear all round. But you can't possibly be sitting there thinking all is ok can you?

Maybe motorcycling isnt for you>
What if a car, t-bones you, what if you hit a patch of diesel on a bend, both more likely than experiencing the same situation as the OP.

 

[Yromulus]

Thanks - enlightening response.

If only all my customers were as understanding when we ship our software releases. Lol!

 

[Captain Scarlet]

I'm sorry to hear of anyone experiencing a problem, be it a one off or otherwise. But personally I'm not remotely worried and I'm keeping my order for a DCT.

Honda are the best production engineers in the world and I have utter faith in them to investigate and if a genuine generic problem, fix it tut suite, before my bike arrives in September 2029 (circa delivery: according to all the neigh sayers out there anyway).

I'm glad that you've posted this S4MST3R - although with a moniker like that, perhaps you should have joined the Ducati Monster forum? Now there's a forum to discuss problems! Sorry, I mean 'character', but I digress....

... it will naturally really add value as you continue to post what Honda's official retort on the problem is. Honda aren't infallible (chocolate camshaft VF750S anyone?), and buying a first year production bike is always a slight lottery. But anything safety related Honda are going to throw huge resources at giving it a coat of looking at, they can't afford any negative press on their runaway sales success.

However, I would really appreciate it if those in north America who have ordered a red DCT, if you could cancel your order and buy an R12GS (failed driveshafts); KTM (squealing brakes); or anything else that floats your boat, so that I can get mine quicker. Thanking you in advance.

 

[anotherbiker]

lol... Ok, I said I was going to stop posting until I finally get my bike (and I will for the most part)... But I did notice this and really think it's a storm in a tea cup!

Broken motorcycle chains can cause locked rear wheels, tires can blow, in the right conditions tankslappers can happen... Motorcycling is a dangerous thing to do!

I can't believe people are already saying DCT models shouldn't be ridden, and should be sold if only there was a market for such death traps! lol I'd happily take one of the DCT death traps if only I could get my hands on one.

Someone else mentioned Kevin Ash and the BMW GS... I remember plenty of people at the time saying that the GS was a death trap based on that one isolated incident. Didn't stop crazy numbers buying them and I'm pretty sure most survived

Breathe, relax, it'll be fine!

 

[Diamondgeezer]

I know what you mean, I read the whole story tonight and was shocked !!! I too have the DCT with only 400 miles on the clock, am planning a few miles this weekend as I'm booked in for the first service next week.........not sure whether to tell the dealer or even ride it at all.........makes ya think !!!!!

 

[Ak Baital]

Should I wait??

Sad to hear this about Honda...I really wanted to get this bike, too and I was very much looking to forward selling my 800GS. Perhaps I should wait? Official Canadian release will be next week on Vancouver Island.

 

[WillR]

DCT not changing up

I've been riding a DCT version NC750 without a hiccup for a couple of years, so no hesitation getting the DCT Africa Twin. A month after taking delivery, I'm happy with it, though it is no way as smooth as on the NC - which must be down to the software.
I did have a slightly similar incident to S4MST3R on one of my early rides - exiting a roundabout in D mode, the DCT refused to change up, running way up the revs despite being on moderate throttle. Like it was stuck in whichever gear (3rd I guess). It hasn't done it again in the 600 miles I've covered since and I put it down to the software still learning. It was disconcerting, but not dangerous, and not ideal for a bike being run in still.

 

[Stazza_Brendan]

I expect that there will be a few dct software updates over the course of the bikes life. Hopefully if there is an issue that affects the bikes in certain conditions a software update that detects these fault conditions and stop an accident from happening.